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[Drascus]

OK I think we are mostly in agreement about things. It's not as if I
only use free software but I do as you say in your article. I use an
Nvidia driver but I have always been supportive of Neaveau project and
regularly test their new release. I use a black berry but I have an
openmoko which I tinker with and try to add functionality to and submit
bug reports for. The one that really annoys me is my Adobe plugin So I
donate money directly to Gnash and the FSF. even if I knew more about
programming I wouldn't be able to help on that one because you can't
contribute to Gnash if you ever have installed that plugin. So I think
that pretty much illustrates what you are talking about in your article.
I think there is room in the world for all of us. I don't think
sacrifice makes you stuffy, If you have the right computer Gnewsense
works no problem. You can get the Openmoko to function fine as a daily
phone if you tinker with it and it's not that much of a hassle. no body
truly needs absolutely needs to see all the flash animation thats on the
net. Or have 3D desktop effects. So it's a sacrifice but not a huge one.
I personally like Ubuntu and what we stand for. I think a lot of us in
the community have our heart in the right place about Freedom. but I
have seen plenty of people that could care less and would be totally
fine with non-free software so they could just get something for
nothing. That makes me nervous. 

Mike C.  

On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 07:53 -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
> And yet, as strong as Richard's own determination and iron will. Do I
> believe that the FSF are the organisation spreading Free Software?
> 
> Nope.
> 
> Anyway I'm sure you saw my recent blog post about "Mostly Free
> Software":
> 
> http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2009/08/27/philosophies-of-foss/
> 
> I'll end with "Freedom in the abstract that applies to no one, is not
> freedom at all"
> 
> Martin,
> 
> On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 00:58 -0400, Drascus wrote:
> > I understand what your saying. They are the old guard but in a lot of
> > ways we need the old guard. We need to have people saying "it's not
> > enough to use mostly Free Software you must use all Free Software." It
> > gives us something to strive toward. I woulnd't mind if they did
> > educational events and Gnewsense installfests and all that. I know that
> > Mako was fairly active in the ubuntu LoCo for a bit and he is an FSF
> > board member. The thing is though I also beyond this conversation
> > haven't seen the community crying out for it. I am sure that if we the
> > associate members all said hey do some more public education and
> > advocacy they would put a campaign together and do it. but no one has
> > said that or asked for it. Or at least not to my knowledge. I can't
> > really see what they would say beyond what the user groups already say.
> > I have seen them sponsor things now and then I am sure there members are
> > active in the local community to the best of their abilities. So I don't
> > know how much more we can ask of them. Ask not what the FSF has done for
> > you Ask what you have you done for the FSF to be corny about it.
> > 
> > Mike C. 
> 
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