[ubuntu-us-ma] Ubuntu-us-ma Digest, Vol 26, Issue 11

Peter Costanza peter.costanza at gmail.com
Fri Apr 3 19:43:10 BST 2009 

The thing that got me interested in Ubuntu was when I put the live disk into
an old Thinkpad R50 e and hit install and it chugged along for about 20
minute and installed everything and recognized the wifi built into the
computer.  I didn't have to do anything but hit "install." Easier than
windows.  On the other hand it's hard for me to get beyond stuff that you do
in the browser and Evolution.

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> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:27:14 -0400
> From: Mick Timony <mick.timony+ubuntuforums at gmail.com<mick.timony%2Bubuntuforums at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-ma] Potential Meeting Locations
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> BLU (Boston Linux Users) meet at MIT. It might be possible to ask them for
> sponsorship for a room at MIT?
>
> I just joined the mailing list in Jan and have been meaning to attend the
> meeting, but haven't had the chance yet. I'll show up sometime in the next
> few months.
>
> Apologies in advance for a possible duplicate of this e-mail ...
>
> Mick Timony
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Doc Kinne <kinnerc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Folks:
> > Chris gives a lot of good thoughts here, and I have to admit I am in his
> > camp.
> >
> > I'm one of those folks who love the idea and philosophy of Linux and Free
> > Software, but realize that in this current climate, from a practical
> > standpoint, there are times when the FOSS community just isn't quite
> there
> > yet.  In my personal example, I run a shop with Linux servers and MacOS X
> > workstations. It has been Apple's increasing corporate behavior over the
> > last five years that has driven me further and further into the FOSS
> > community, however, this is still being written from a MacBook because
> one
> > of the most frustrating computing experiences of my entire life was
> getting
> > wireless to work on a Laptop running Linux. While the FOSS community -
> and
> > Ubuntu in particular - has made great gains in the last couple of years
> > getting to "the last mile" of "normal" desktop access, they're still
> trying.
> > So, I realize that while philosophy is great, and can and should be your
> > guiding light, practicality sometimes wins the game.
> >
> > So, in the end, I think this is ultimately a dangerous idea for both
> > parties.  From our side, Bug #1 puts us in direct philosophical combat
> with
> > Microsoft, and from their part the Halloween Memo does the same with
> regard
> > to us. While meeting there could work, I think it could just take a
> careless
> > thought and action, not even meant badly, from either side to make things
> > potentially uncomfortable.
> >
> > I personally love the BPL idea if we can make it work.
> > ---
> > Richard "Doc" Kinne ? Rikardo ?Dok?jo? KINNE, BA, MSc., AMAAS
> > <kinnerc @ gmail.com>
> > "I'm the Doctor, and you're in the biggest library in the universe. Look
> me
> > up!"
> > - The Doctor
> > "Forests of the Dead," *Doctor Who*
> >
> > On 03 Apr , 2009, at 09:55, Chris Butler wrote:
> >
> > I'm a bit torn on this...
> >
> > A lot of us are admins or developers who work in mixed OS environs. The
> > idea of pulling people from both Linux and Windows sides to maybe help
> mesh
> > them is a positive to me.
> >
> > The point of Ubuntu though has always seemed to me to create access to
> > Linux for the everyday end user - and the idea of free software.
> > http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/philosophy
> >
> > Why shouldn't we bring this idea to Microsoft?
> >
> > On the other hand...
> > The Free Software idea undermines the core corporate policies/drives of
> > Microsoft (from my perspective at least).
> > This could very easily be viewed as an attempt to undermine them and I
> > would hesitate to go into a position that could cause any conflict.
> >
> > I wouldn't mind it, as long as it was clear to them who/what we are and
> do
> > but I would probably be more comfortable finding another alternative.
> >
> > Just my .02$
> >
> > -Chris
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Samuel Murphy <samuel.murphy at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> What do people think?
> >>>
> >>> Regards, MArtin
> >>
> >>
> >> I was at a community event there a few weeks ago, the MSfolk seemed
> >> totally cool about demos shown on Firefox or linux based. It is an
> >> amazing location, do look for the beanbag chairs in the shape of stream
> >> pebbles.
> >>
> >> My cynical spidy sense suspects that the Cambridge 'lab' comes from
> >> an MS exec reading something like 'The Art of War' and following the
> >> suggestion "keep your friends close... and your enemies closer"
> >>
> >> But heck, take advantage of it.
> >>
> >> -Sam
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:26:25 -0400
> From: John Abreau <jabr at gapps.blu.org>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-ma] Potential Meeting Locations
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> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Mick Timony <mick.timony at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > BLU (Boston Linux Users) meet at MIT. Would it be possible to ask them
> for
> > sponsorship for a room at MIT?
> >
>
>
> I had assumed this thread was bout alternating between MIT and other
> locations.  Are you in fact no longer able to meet at MIT?
>
> BLU doesn't have any rights to schedule rooms for other groups, but
> I could ask the scheduling people if there's a process for new user groups
> to register in order to be allowed to hold meetings there.
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> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:39:44 -0400
> From: Mick Timony <mick.timony+ubuntuforums at gmail.com<mick.timony%2Bubuntuforums at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-ma] Potential Meeting Locations
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> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:26 AM, John Abreau <jabr at gapps.blu.org> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Mick Timony <mick.timony at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > BLU (Boston Linux Users) meet at MIT. Would it be possible to ask them
> > for
> > > sponsorship for a room at MIT?
> > >
> >
> >
> > I had assumed this thread was bout alternating between MIT and other
> > locations.  Are you in fact no longer able to meet at MIT?
>
>
> That's basically it! The person who sponsored the group is not long at MIT.
>
> Martin has the full details, he sent an e-mail out earlier saying the
> following:
>
> "Steve Pomeroy was our sponsor at the MIT Media Lab, he allowed us to
> book rooms for both our meeting and some of our "Installfests" we had
> last year.
>
> But he has just gotten a new job across the road and is no longer in
> that privileged position to be able to organise such space. I also get
> the feeling that Steve is busy doing his own research activities and so
> can't really play as big of a role in the group as he might have wanted.
>
> So, we managed to get emergency space at MIT Media Lab for our last
> meeting on Steve's last day. The primary focus of that meeting was
> finding new space. Many of the action items are related there for to
> that task and thus people who agreed to look stuff up have been
> reporting back with their findings.
>
> Hopefully this clears stuff up."
>
>
> >
> >
> > BLU doesn't have any rights to schedule rooms for other groups, but
> > I could ask the scheduling people if there's a process for new user
> groups
> > to register in order to be allowed to hold meetings there.
> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 11:46:29 -0400
> From: jimi o'beirne <jimobeirne at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-ma] Potential Meeting Locations
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> I may have an "in" at Babson College...she is checking into it for us.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 11:39 -0400, Mick Timony wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:26 AM, John Abreau <jabr at gapps.blu.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >         On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Mick Timony
> >         <mick.timony at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >         > BLU (Boston Linux Users) meet at MIT. Would it be possible
> >         to ask them for
> >         > sponsorship for a room at MIT?
> >         >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >         I had assumed this thread was bout alternating between MIT and
> >         other
> >         locations.  Are you in fact no longer able to meet at MIT?
> >
> >
> > That's basically it! The person who sponsored the group is not long at
> > MIT.
> >
> > Martin has the full details, he sent an e-mail out earlier saying the
> > following:
> >
> >
> > "Steve Pomeroy was our sponsor at the MIT Media Lab, he allowed us to
> > book rooms for both our meeting and some of our "Installfests" we had
> > last year.
> >
> > But he has just gotten a new job across the road and is no longer in
> > that privileged position to be able to organise such space. I also get
> > the feeling that Steve is busy doing his own research activities and
> > so
> > can't really play as big of a role in the group as he might have
> > wanted.
> >
> > So, we managed to get emergency space at MIT Media Lab for our last
> > meeting on Steve's last day. The primary focus of that meeting was
> > finding new space. Many of the action items are related there for to
> > that task and thus people who agreed to look stuff up have been
> > reporting back with their findings.
> >
> > Hopefully this clears stuff up."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >         BLU doesn't have any rights to schedule rooms for other
> >         groups, but
> >         I could ask the scheduling people if there's a process for new
> >         user groups
> >         to register in order to be allowed to hold meetings there.
> >
> >
> >
> >         --
> >         John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux & Unix
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