[ubuntu-us-ma] Potential Meeting Locations

[Doc Kinne]

Folks:

Chris gives a lot of good thoughts here, and I have to admit I am in  
his camp.

I'm one of those folks who love the idea and philosophy of Linux and  
Free Software, but realize that in this current climate, from a  
practical standpoint, there are times when the FOSS community just  
isn't quite there yet.  In my personal example, I run a shop with  
Linux servers and MacOS X workstations. It has been Apple's increasing  
corporate behavior over the last five years that has driven me further  
and further into the FOSS community, however, this is still being  
written from a MacBook because one of the most frustrating computing  
experiences of my entire life was getting wireless to work on a Laptop  
running Linux. While the FOSS community - and Ubuntu in particular -  
has made great gains in the last couple of years getting to "the last  
mile" of "normal" desktop access, they're still trying. So, I realize  
that while philosophy is great, and can and should be your guiding  
light, practicality sometimes wins the game.

So, in the end, I think this is ultimately a dangerous idea for both  
parties.  From our side, Bug #1 puts us in direct philosophical combat  
with Microsoft, and from their part the Halloween Memo does the same  
with regard to us. While meeting there could work, I think it could  
just take a careless thought and action, not even meant badly, from  
either side to make things potentially uncomfortable.

I personally love the BPL idea if we can make it work.
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Richard "Doc" Kinne • Rikardo «Dokĉjo» KINNE, BA, MSc., AMAAS
<kinnerc @ gmail.com>
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- The Doctor
"Forests of the Dead," Doctor Who

On 03 Apr , 2009, at 09:55, Chris Butler wrote:

> I'm a bit torn on this...
>
> A lot of us are admins or developers who work in mixed OS environs.  
> The idea of pulling people from both Linux and Windows sides to  
> maybe help mesh them is a positive to me.
>
> The point of Ubuntu though has always seemed to me to create access  
> to Linux for the everyday end user - and the idea of free software.
> http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/philosophy
>
> Why shouldn't we bring this idea to Microsoft?
>
> On the other hand...
> The Free Software idea undermines the core corporate policies/drives  
> of Microsoft (from my perspective at least).
> This could very easily be viewed as an attempt to undermine them and  
> I would hesitate to go into a position that could cause any conflict.
>
> I wouldn't mind it, as long as it was clear to them who/what we are  
> and do but I would probably be more comfortable finding another  
> alternative.
>
> Just my .02$
>
> -Chris
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Samuel Murphy  
> <samuel.murphy at gmail.com> wrote:
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> What do people think?
>
> Regards, MArtin
>
> I was at a community event there a few weeks ago, the MSfolk seemed
> totally cool about demos shown on Firefox or linux based. It is an
> amazing location, do look for the beanbag chairs in the shape of  
> stream pebbles.
>
> My cynical spidy sense suspects that the Cambridge 'lab' comes from
> an MS exec reading something like 'The Art of War' and following the
> suggestion "keep your friends close... and your enemies closer"
>
> But heck, take advantage of it.
>
> -Sam
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