Clarkston, Install Fests, mailboxery....

paulderol dr.jackal.mr.hydra at gmail.com
Wed Apr 30 19:58:34 BST 2008


1--the clarkston project sounds good, i've been looking for a way to try
and incorporate the philosophically sound [and useful!] open source
systems into institutions whose mandate offers them ample reason and
opportunity to incorporate community driven software, freeing up funds
for more useful things....so sign me up, although pending a location,
i'll need an assist on transport...

2--Install fests--What can one expect? would it be unreasonable to
assume that if i showed up with a thinkpad, someone could help me
recompile the kernel to accomodate various hardware issues, i.e.
fingerprint reader, hdaps, and suspend/resume?

3--email folder permission issues--wouldn't chmod or chown provide the
needed permissions? try 
sudo chmod a=rwx [folder] -R -v

this SHOULD set full access (ReadWriteeXecute] to all users (a), while
retaining ownership as root, of the selected [folder], and all
subfolders beneath whatever [folder] you specify (-R) and tell you what
happens (-v). 

sudo chown [username] [folder] -R -v 

this SHOULD set ownership to [username] for the selected and all
underlying folders, and tell you when it works. 

again, SHOULD work, i'm not sure how epiphany needs its permissions set,
but the chown setup should work best, given that the program should run
as user, rather than root, so changing the ownership from root shouldn't
matter, but be very careful when you begin messing with ownership, i
managed to chown my home and root folders right out from under myself,
as sudoers and sudoid will fail to reconcile, since root programs won't
be able to use user folders....caveat emptor. 

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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:35:02 -0400
> From: "Jon Reagan" <jreagan1990 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Ubuntu Open Week
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> Hello everyone,
> 
> The Ubuntu Open Week is here, where you can learn about the Ubuntu community
> and how to get involved.  Our very own Nick (aka Boredandblogging) will be
> hosting a session on Loco teams this Saturday.  I have added the schedule to
> the Ubuntu Georgia calendar (visit ubuntu-georgia site, and click on
> "Calendar" on side navigation bar)
> 
> Be sure to visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek for more
> information!
> 
> The sessions are held in IRC channel #ubuntu-classroom, and questions may be
> posted on #ubuntu-classroom-chat.
> 
> Have a great day!
> 
> Jon
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:33:28 -0400
> From: "Jim Popovitch" <yahoo at jimpop.com>
> Subject: Re: Ubuntu Open Week
> To: "Georgia Ubuntu Mailing List" <ubuntu-us-ga at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Jon Reagan <jreagan1990 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I have added the schedule to the Ubuntu Georgia calendar (visit ubuntu-georgia site, and click on
> > "Calendar" on side navigation bar)
> 
> Why?   ;-)
> 
> Why not create an Ubuntu Classroom calendar instead?
> 
> -Jim P.
> 
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:05:09 -0400
> From: "Jon Reagan" <jreagan1990 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Ubuntu Open Week
> To: "Georgia Ubuntu Mailing List" <ubuntu-us-ga at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> Well, I sort of took the stuff from the ubuntu-classroom calendar.  I really
> added it for the purpose of having it available for those who might be
> interested, and a guy from our group is hosting one of the sessions... So
> there. :P
> 
> Jon
> 
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Jim Popovitch <yahoo at jimpop.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Jon Reagan <jreagan1990 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > I have added the schedule to the Ubuntu Georgia calendar (visit
> > ubuntu-georgia site, and click on
> > > "Calendar" on side navigation bar)
> >
> > Why?   ;-)
> >
> > Why not create an Ubuntu Classroom calendar instead?
> >
> > -Jim P.
> >
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> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:17:48 -0400
> From: "Jim Popovitch" <yahoo at jimpop.com>
> Subject: Re: Ubuntu Open Week
> To: "Georgia Ubuntu Mailing List" <ubuntu-us-ga at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Jon Reagan <jreagan1990 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well, I sort of took the stuff from the ubuntu-classroom calendar.  I really
> > added it for the purpose of having it available for those who might be
> > interested, and a guy from our group is hosting one of the sessions... So
> > there. :P
> 
> Fair enough.   Just so you know that this can happen (and I hold no
> one other than myself at fault)... I sync the u-g-a calendar to my
> google calendar, which gsyncs to my blackberry, which syncs to work
> calendar, which syncs to desktop email application, which "reminds" me
> of soon to be meetings.... so all at once I started getting pop-up
> reminders about Somerville (a place I use to live) and Bacon (a food I
> like) because Cody and Jono were presenters.
> 
> -Jim P.
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:27:29 -0400
> From: Eric Weir <eeweir at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Could the LoCo help with this?
> To: Georgia Ubuntu Mailing List <ubuntu-us-ga at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> To all,
> 
> My work has involved me in the development of a collaboration around the 
> needs of children and families in the Clarkston area. In this context 
> I've made the acquaintance of a father and son team who do work related 
> to use of  technology and learning of mathematics by low income 
> communities, families and students. Working as volunteers they have set 
> up a computer lab in the Clarkston Community Center using used computers 
> and monitors the the Community Center had obtained from various places, 
> primarily the Centers for Disease Control.
> 
> This morning as they were opening up the lab, I asked whether residents 
> could get access to the internet through the computers in the lab. The 
> answer was, "Yes, but . . . ." There are concerns about security with so 
> many users who have no understanding of the problem. There is also an 
> issue of the cost of software that could provide some protection against 
> viruses, etc. I had previously suggested they look into Linux, 
> especially Ubuntu, because it's free, because Ubuntu has made Linux 
> relatively user-friendly, because there is real community associated 
> with it, and because there is such a wealth of open source software, 
> including educational software.
> 
> To get to the point, they are interested in learning more, but they 
> don't have a lot of time to devote to studying up on a system with which 
> they are unfamiliar. I wonder if this is something the Lo Co might be 
> able to help with. I mentioned that a new version of Ubuntu had just 
> been released and that the LoCo would probably be having an installfest 
> sometime in the near future. I said I'd let them know when and if one 
> was scheduled and suggested that it would be a great time to get a sense 
> of what Linux, Ubuntu, and the Ubuntu community are like.
> 
> Now really to get to the point, can you imagine the LoCo helping these 
> folks in more concrete ways? E.g., helping them think about how Ubuntu 
> might be deployed in the Community Center to address a variety of uses 
> there and then actually installing it.
> 
> Obviously the issue would need to be explored in a somewhat open-ended 
> way initially, but any reactions or alternative suggestions would welcome.
> 
> Sincerely,
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Eric Weir
> Decatur, GA  USA
> eeweir at bellsouth.net
> 
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:36:51 -0400
> From: "Nick Ali" <nali at ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: Could the LoCo help with this?
> To: "Georgia Ubuntu Mailing List" <ubuntu-us-ga at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Eric Weir <eeweir at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >  Now really to get to the point, can you imagine the LoCo helping these
> >  folks in more concrete ways? E.g., helping them think about how Ubuntu
> >  might be deployed in the Community Center to address a variety of uses
> >  there and then actually installing it.
> 
> Definitely sounds like a worthwhile cause. Invite the father and son
> team to the install fest (May 17th at Emory). Let them get a feel for
> Ubuntu.
> 
> In terms of planning and figuring out the needs, the LoCo can help.
> There is more than enough technical expertise to go around. We can
> discuss their specific needs and try to find a solution for them.
> 
> nick
> 
> -- 
> 
> http://boredandblogging.com
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:43:28 -0400
> From: Eric Weir <eeweir at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: How do I get ownership of my mailboxes.
> To: Georgia Ubuntu Mailing List <ubuntu-us-ga at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <4818AFC0.6020807 at bellsouth.net>
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> Right after 8.04 came out I did fresh Kubuntu-only installation and then 
> decided to bomb out of Kubuntu and give Xubuntu a try, in part because 
> I've been so disappointed in the performance of Thunderbird, my 
> preferred mail client, since I switched over to Ubuntu.
> 
> With each new installation of Thunderbird I have had difficulty getting 
> my mailboxes and folders to show up. The first time it was because the 
> permissions were not set right. The second time, however, I have been 
> unable to diagnose the problem. The permissions are OK. The folder 
> settings in the prefs.js file and under server settings in account 
> settings are both pointed at the right folder.
> 
> I desperation I decided to give Epiphany another try. [I'd tried it 
> previously, and don't like the way it handles filtering.] Once again, 
> the mailboxes and folders are not showing up. This time the problem 
> seems to be that the mailboxes and folders are owned by /root. Even when 
> start it with sudo, I see no way in Thunar to change the ownership of 
> files or folders.
> 
> What can I do to get ownership of my mailboxes back? [And why, when 
> they're in my /home folder are they owned by /root? [They were copied 
> from a second drive which I use for backing up which is also owned by 
> /root. Which brings up another question: how can I mount the second 
> drive so that it's not owned by root?]]
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Sincerely,
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Eric Weir
> Decatur, GA  USA
> eeweir at bellsouth.net
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:00:14 -0400
> From: "Joshua Chase" <joshua.d.chase at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Ubuntu Open Week
> To: "Georgia Ubuntu Mailing List" <ubuntu-us-ga at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> LAWL !
> 
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Jim Popovitch <yahoo at jimpop.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Jon Reagan <jreagan1990 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Well, I sort of took the stuff from the ubuntu-classroom calendar.  I
> > really
> > > added it for the purpose of having it available for those who might be
> > > interested, and a guy from our group is hosting one of the sessions...
> > So
> > > there. :P
> >
> > Fair enough.   Just so you know that this can happen (and I hold no
> > one other than myself at fault)... I sync the u-g-a calendar to my
> > google calendar, which gsyncs to my blackberry, which syncs to work
> > calendar, which syncs to desktop email application, which "reminds" me
> > of soon to be meetings.... so all at once I started getting pop-up
> > reminders about Somerville (a place I use to live) and Bacon (a food I
> > like) because Cody and Jono were presenters.
> >
> > -Jim P.
> >
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> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:11:28 -0400
> From: Erica Rosalle <erica at trausch.us>
> Subject: Re: Ubuntu Open Week
> To: Georgia Ubuntu Mailing List <ubuntu-us-ga at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> Joshua Chase wrote:
> > LAWL !
> > 
> 
> Admit it...you actually said that as you were typing it out, didn't you. ;-)
> 
> - --
> - -Erica Rosalle
> "A lot of people out there pay good lip
> service to the idea of personal freedom...
> right up to the point that someone tries
> to do something that they don't personally
> approve of."
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