[CoLoCo] Having troubles with Alice....

TC telecon at infosyndicate.net
Mon Jun 16 19:16:02 BST 2008


Java is the official language of AP CS?  No wonder recent college
graduates are so poorly prepared for the real world.

I can speak to this, because I've been interviewing people for support
positions at Sun, and working on a start up that is RoR based.

Yeeks.

Richard Guenther wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Neal McBurnett <neal at bcn.boulder.co.us
> <mailto:neal at bcn.boulder.co.us>> wrote:
> 
> 
>     I bet it is the extraordinary efforts of the GCJ folks that have
>     forced Sun's hand in starting to release Java as open source, and we
>     all benefit from that.
> 
> 
> Hi Neal,
> 
> It's me, not Ringo, that has the problems with Alice.  I agree with you
> on applauding the work on GCJ that people did.  I'm not a big fan of
> Sun, nor Java, but it is THE language for the AP Computer Science
> curriculum, so I need to know the official compilers from Sun.  I wish
> the College Board would allow multiple languages, as Python would be a
> great language for the APCS class.  The Python Edu-sig has been pushing
> for that for a long time.  Mostly we bite the bullet and teach Java,
> although behind the scenes we complain about it a lot :-).
> 
> Kevin, I am using the official Sun Java versions, btw, and the problem
> still exists.  I'll keep experimenting on it. 
> 
> Richard
> 
>  
> 



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