[ubuntu-uk] School websites

Phill Whiteside phillw at ubuntu.com
Thu Jun 23 22:29:59 UTC 2011

The world moved on and people got lazy? Well, that's how I like to see it -
I'd hate to read of any more 'kick-backs' being paid.

There is another email thread now started, so not too sure which one to
place this in.

But, I do know that uk-LoCo is up for re-approval.... On that vein, even
though this is a new project to me (about 3 weeks), I'd suggest having a
quick look at just how professional this appears?

I, for one, am going to pursue it. I have been in touch with said university
team and it is certainly not a dormant project. Even just a mention of so
doing may tick a box on the council who re-approve? There is obviously a
depth of feeling on the matter of getting some sort of template, easily
updated, compliant available.

Possibly one of the Alan's could let me know if you as ubuntu-uk are
interested in my pursuing this further for uk, or just for the team so far I
want to learn the system with.



On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Tony Pursell
<ajp at princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk>wrote:

> On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 23:08 +0100, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
> > On 23/06/2011 20:19, Grant Sewell wrote:
> > >
> > > To an extent, I agree with you.  However, there is also the argument
> > > that RM et al are merely services and if the people to whom they are
> > > providing a service demand XYZ then it would be inappropriate for RM et
> > > al to provide PQR instead.
> >
> > Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. Companies like RM tender to the
> > LEA NOT to individual schools.
> What has happened then to 'Local Management of Schools'?  When I was a
> school governor, admittedly some 20 years ago, schools could opt out of
> the LEA negotiated contracts.
> > If a school (or a teacher) decides it want a particular piece of
> > software then RM has to "validate" it first. If it fails "validation"
> > then RM won't install it, no matter what the teacher wants, or how good
> > the software id or who produces it. They exert a VERY tight control on
> > what is installed on "their" systems...(I know - my wife works for a
> > very large provider of Educational Software - probably the largest in
> > the world, and they STILL have to have their products go through this
> > "validation" process)
> >
> >
> > > Get the teachers on board, the school will follow, the LEAs after that
> > > and the service providers will either have to change their service or
> > > risk not being the service provider any more.
> > >
> > See above....in the present setup companies like RM are there to make
> > money, NOT to provide a service. The hoops software suppliers have to
> > jump through is unbelievable.
> > RM and their ilk are acting like 1980's IT depts...they allow only what
> > softwareTHEY approve of.
> >
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