[ubuntu-uk] Um, why am I blocked from #ubuntu-uk

Avi Greenbury lists at avi.co
Sun Jul 24 08:28:21 UTC 2011

scoundrel50a wrote:

> See, this is where it is confusing, to me that says its Oneiric,
> where does it say its Linux, built for/on Oneiric, it doesnt. How am
> I supposed to know that? That is why I am confused, which makes it 
> confusing for everybody else.....

I think it's just generally assumed that by the time someone is playing
around with the kernel itself, they're aware of the distinction between
'Linux' and 'Ubuntu'. Historically, that's been because playing around
with the kernel itself has been relatively hard.

It's sort-of suggested as such in the PPA's description on launchpad
("The quality of these packages is such that you had better know what
you're doing.") but, of course, you can't really know whether or not
you know what you're doing until having a go and seeing if it all goes
wrong... :)

Perhaps, with different kernels getting so easy to install, it should
be made more clear. But I don't really know where; the package already
follows the normal naming convention somewhat:


[name of what's in the package]-[version]-[more minor version]-[even
more minor version]-[yet more minor]_arch.deb

And doesn't even mention Oneiric, just Linux (which is what it is). The
only mention of 'oneiric' on the PPA page is in the example sources.list

> How will that happen, it isnt just my an Acer Aspire thing, its wide 
> ranging? 

Well, someone affected by the problem will have to poke through the
changes and find out where it's broken. There's a GitBisect tool for
doing this, but it does require some familiarity with building
and installing kernels, or a willingness to learn fast :) 


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