[ubuntu-uk] Open with... WHAT?

Paul Webster paulwebbiweb at googlemail.com
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>   1. Re:  Word 2002 under Wine? (John Matthews)
>   2. Re:  Upgrading to FF3.5 in Ubuntu (John Matthews)
>   3. Re:  Evolution's compulsory GPG routine (Rowan Berkeley)
>   4. Re:  Evolution's compulsory GPG routine (Vinothan Shankar)
>   5. Re:  Printer problems (Wulfy)
>   6.  Open with... WHAT? (Paul Webster)
>   7. Re:  Printer problems (danattwood)
>   8. Re:  Open with... WHAT? (Alan Lord (News))
>   9. Re:  Printer problems (Alan Lord (News))
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:27:23 +0100
> From: John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Word 2002 under Wine?
> To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <4A5741BB.1010509 at sky.com>
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> Rob Beard wrote:
> > Paul Webster wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Can I expect Word 2002 to run under Wine (on Jaunty)?
> >>
> >> I tried to install it, but came to a standstill during the
> >> installation, as the Word installer demanded a restart I couldn't
> provide.
> >>
> >> Paul W.
> >>
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > It's not obvious how to do it, I'd agree on that one.  What you need to
> > do is open a terminal and use wineboot.  You can find more on wineboot
> here:
> >
> > http://wiki.winehq.org/wineboot
> >
> > I believe you'll need to run:
> >
> > wineboot -r
> >
> >
> > It suggests on the WineHQ app database that Word 2002 is well supported
> > with the status set to Gold -
> > http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=10
> >
> >
> > Alternatively if you're still having problems you might want to consider
> > having a look at CrossOver Office which is a commercial version of Wine
> > with support from Codeweavers.
> >
> > They suggest that Word 2002 is a 'silver' application and is supported:
> > http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=2
> >
> > CrossOver Office is ?25.99 with 6 months of level 3 support but you can
> > also get a 30 day trial version to try it out (good for testing
> > application compatibility) or ?44.99 for the Professional version which
> > gives you 1 year of level 2 support.  You can find out more about the
> > levels of support here:
> >
> > http://www.codeweavers.com/support/faq/#f
> >
> > There is also a games specific version available which supports popular
> > Windows games (World of Warcraft etc) and also a version of either for
> > the Intel based Mac at the same price.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Ooh, sorry for all the e-mails, but just noticed that it has a Mac based
> version as well, and it works on Linux.
>
> John.
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:34:17 +0100
> From: John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to FF3.5 in Ubuntu
> To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <4A574359.9070804 at sky.com>
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> Daniel Drummond wrote:
> > John Matthews wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, thank you for the information.
> >>
> >> I was just wondering, how do I get it to work, and become my default
> >> browser so that I dont have both, and I dont loose my profile info?
> >>
> >> John.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Not sure if this is the best way to do it, but it accomplished it for me.
> >
> > open a terminal and type the following commands
> >
> > cd /usr/bin
> > ls -l firefox
> >
> > you should see that the firefox file is a link to firefox-3.0
> >
> > then type
> >
> > sudo rm firefox
> > sudo ln -s firefox-3.5 firefox
> >
> > That will update it so that menu entries will run firefox 3.5 and it
> > should run by default.  However if there are any extensions you rely on,
> > until they have been updated to work with firefox3.5 you won't be able
> > to use them.
> >
> > As I said earlier my bookmarks followed me, so I'm not sure why yours
> > didn't.
> >
> > I did some checking, and this worked on my machine.
> >
> > Quit all firefox's before starting.
> > In your home directory there is a folder called .mozilla  (In the file
> > manager this can be shown by pressing Ctrl-H).  In this directory there
> > should be a "firefox" and "firefox-3.5" directory.  Rename "firefox-3.5"
> > to "firefox-3.5.old", and make a copy of the "firefox" directory, and
> > rename the copy to "firefox-3.5".
> >
> > In commands:
> >
> > cd ~/.mozilla
> > mv firefox-3.5 firefox-3.5.old
> > cp -r firefox firefox-3.5
> >
> > Then run Firefox, and hopefully all should be well, with all your
> > bookmarks intact.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > ps.  Do you not sleep?  I'm currently in Canada visiting my parents
> > which is why I'm up at this ungodly hour
> >
> >
> Thank you, I will give it a try.
>
> It looks a bit complicated, so I just hope I get it right.
>
> John.
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:48:16 +0100
> From: Rowan Berkeley <rowan.berkeley at googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Evolution's compulsory GPG routine
> To: ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
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> Thunderbird is much easier to use than Evo, anyway, so I shall scrap Evo
> and use Thunderbird.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:13:10 +0100
> From: Vinothan Shankar <neversaymonkey at googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Evolution's compulsory GPG routine
> To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <4A575A86.30709 at googlemail.com>
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> Rowan Berkeley wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 15:36 +0100, vinu wrote:
> >
> >> Assuming it IS gnome-keyring, somewhere in the repositories is a
> >> package that will unlock your default keyring on login and lock it
> >> again when you log out, to defeat this very problem.  I've been using
> >> it for quite a while, now. If, on the other hand, it's the GPG, you
> >> can disable it in your Evo preferences.
> >
> > It's just Evo; every time I start it, it says more or less "the
> > application 'evolution' wants to access the GPG keyring but it is
> > locked." I have looked a good few times at the Evo preferences but I
> > cannot see any way to disable this, so, Vinu, please tell me
> > specifically how to do it.
> >
> > Also, I have gone and deleted the Evo applet from the Gnome panel, and
> > so I am not getting new email notifications (except for a momentary
> > balloon). I would like to put the applet back, but it isn't listed in
> > 'add/remove from panel.' Can anyone tell me how?
> >
> >
>
> Sorry, it's nagging when it opens?  I've never encountered this with the
> GPG keyring, though it has been known to ask to unlock the "default
> keyring" each time it opens (not *quite* the same).  If it's asking
> about the default keyring, this is due to having automatic login enabled
> - - It unlocks the keyring when you type your login password, which
> doesn't happen if you have auto-login enabled.  The only thing you can
> do about this, as far as I know, is to disable automatic login.
>
> You'll need to go into the settings for each of your mail accounts (if
> you have more that one) and unset everything relevant on the security
> tab.  That includes removing the key fingerprint from the box.  As far
> as I recall, this will prevent Evo interfacing with GPG at all.
>
> > Thunderbird is much easier to use than Evo, anyway, so I shall scrap
> > Evo and use Thunderbird.
>
> I would like to add that because I arrived at a similar conclusion a
> couple of weeks ago, I'm working form memory about Evolution.
>
> Vinu
>
> PS apologies for the delayed response.
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:15:28 +0100
> From: Wulfy <wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Printer problems
> To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <4A575B10.9070704 at tiscali.co.uk>
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> Alan Lord (News) wrote:
> > On 10/07/09 13:16, Wulfy wrote:
> > <snip />
> >
> >> Thanks, Alan.
> >>
> >> I had seen that page but it's for the i386 version of Ubuntu.  I don't
> >> really want to downgrade my architecture just to get the printer
> >> going... :@(
> >>
> >> Once again, thanks for responding.
> >>
> >
> > No problem.
> >
> > I had some issues with a KM printer before. The important bits of the
> > driver for CUPS, including the gzipped PPD file (this only contains
> > text, it isn't a binary) I was able to extract from an RPM and then
> > manually install in the right directory on my system. IIRC I don't think
> > any of the files were binaries.
> >
> > The point I'm making is I would check that the packaging of the driver
> > for i386 is actually the important issue. You possibly just need the
> > *contents* of the package.
> >
> > See this post for info:
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/273021/comments/11
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Al
> One of the thing I tried was to install the PPD file.  It complained
> that the driver was needed.  I even tried to compile the source (not
> something I usually get into) but that kept failing, too...  :@(
>
> I think perhaps that if I installed the 32-bit version I could use it. I
> don't really want to do that, though...
>
> --
> Blessings
>
> Wulfmann
>
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> Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack.
> Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between.
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>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:17:07 +0100
> From: Paul Webster <paulwebbiweb at googlemail.com>
> Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Open with... WHAT?
> To: ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
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> Dear all
>
> I know I'm a pest with my incessant questions, but things just keep
> cropping
> up...
>
> When a word-processing file is downloaded (e.g. an email attachment), the
> following happens on my system:
>
> 1) If it is a .doc file, an Open Office 3.0 start-up window appears and
> makes a failed attempt to open it. This is despite the fact that I long ago
> uninstalled Open Office in the approved manner. I want the document to open
> in Textmaker, which is the word processor I use, and which has no problem
> opening .doc files when I double click on them. However, in the case of a
> newly arrived attachment, I have to right click the file and choose 'Open
> containing folder'. Only then can I double click on the file and have it
> open correctly in Textmaker.
>
> 2) If it is an .rtf file, Jaunty erroneously states that this is an
> executable file and makes a fuss about it, but eventually agrees to open
> it.
>
> 3) If it is a PDF file, the document automatically opens without further
> ado, which is great, UNLESS you are silly enough to close the document and
> go back to it again later (in the list of downloads). Then, double clicking
> on it confuses Jaunty horribly, which claims not to know how to open it.
> This leads to an 'Open with...' routine, as you often get in Windows,
> except
> that Jaunty does not present a list of programs to choose from. Instead, it
> shows you all your folders and leaves you to get on with it! This is not
> helpful. I have no idea where to find any program whatever from this point
> (since I've never known where Ubuntu stores programs, and never cared about
> it anyway). I would like to know (a) why Jaunty suddenly forgets how to
> open
> PDFs and (b) fails to present a list of programs to choose from. My only
> way
> round this has been to download the PDF for a second time!
>
> I'd be very grateful for any help on all this.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Paul W.
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:30:34 +0100
> From: danattwood <danattwood at googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Printer problems
> To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> Wulfy wrote:
> > Alan Lord (News) wrote:
> >
> >> On 10/07/09 13:16, Wulfy wrote:
> >> <snip />
> >>
> >>
> >>> Thanks, Alan.
> >>>
> >>> I had seen that page but it's for the i386 version of Ubuntu.  I don't
> >>> really want to downgrade my architecture just to get the printer
> >>> going... :@(
> >>>
> >>> Once again, thanks for responding.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> No problem.
> >>
> >> I had some issues with a KM printer before. The important bits of the
> >> driver for CUPS, including the gzipped PPD file (this only contains
> >> text, it isn't a binary) I was able to extract from an RPM and then
> >> manually install in the right directory on my system. IIRC I don't think
> >> any of the files were binaries.
> >>
> >> The point I'm making is I would check that the packaging of the driver
> >> for i386 is actually the important issue. You possibly just need the
> >> *contents* of the package.
> >>
> >> See this post for info:
> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/273021/comments/11
> >>
> >> HTH
> >>
> >> Al
> >>
> > One of the thing I tried was to install the PPD file.  It complained
> > that the driver was needed.  I even tried to compile the source (not
> > something I usually get into) but that kept failing, too...  :@(
> >
> > I think perhaps that if I installed the 32-bit version I could use it. I
> > don't really want to do that, though...
> >
> >
> If the printer is usb then why not try installing virtualbox and this
> will then let you install a 32bit ubuntu guest and pass the printer
> through to it. This would at least let you test it before deciding if
> you want to reinstall your whole system.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:45:32 +0100
> From: "Alan Lord (News)" <alanslists at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open with... WHAT?
> To: ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
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> On 10/07/09 16:17, Paul Webster wrote:
> > Dear all
> >
> > I know I'm a pest with my incessant questions, but things just keep
> > cropping up...
> >
> > When a word-processing file is downloaded (e.g. an email attachment),
> > the following happens on my system:
>
> What email client are you using?
>
> I use Thunderbird and you can configure what apps you want to open which
> kind of attachments when you click on them.
> Tools->Preferences->Attachments.
>
> I am sure you can probably do the same in Evolution too.
>
> HTH
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:48:22 +0100
> From: "Alan Lord (News)" <alanslists at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Printer problems
> To: ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
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> <snip />
> > I think perhaps that if I installed the 32-bit version I could use it. I
> > don't really want to do that, though...
>
> I thought that 64bit Ubuntu was Multilib?
>
> Multilib means it has *both* 32 and 64bit libraries.
>
> I might be wrong here but I kind of thought that was the whole point of
> Multilib...
>
> Personally I have never seen a reason to warrant using 64bit. Many of
> the plugins and codecs are not built for it, neither was Flash until
> very recently. And there is little benefit ti using it unless you have
> more than 3GB or RAM.
>
> Al
>
>
>
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