[ubuntu-uk] Community distro ?

TheVeech theveech at gmail.com
Tue Mar 20 09:52:02 GMT 2007

On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 01:15 +0000, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 11:32:45PM +0000, Michael Wood wrote:
> > Firstly: 
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork#head-8c391b3699f3571c2aedfa7cb78adb4623206933
> > 
> > "Feisty artwork will be designed by kwwii -- of Kubuntu Edgy and KDE 
> > Oxygen Icon fame. He will be working closely with sabdfl in the design. 
> > Do not expect community involvement in defining this portion."
> > 
> > This seems to contradict entirely the description of ubuntu "Ubuntu is a 
> > community developed, linux-based operating system ...." - Ubuntu.com .
> It's surprisingly difficult to create top quality artwork without
> commercial direction.  The artwork of both desktops is majority funded
> by companies.  Ubuntu Edgy tried to do community artwork but it was
> all reverted due to quality issues.  

Isn't any FLOSS-influenced work supposed to be part of an ongoing
process of feedback and revision?  In software, for example, of course
you have many examples of commercial input, but this isn't an
inevitability for community projects when things aren't working.
Instead of there being 'bad' artwork isn't it a case where the community
has simply failed to function properly?  If so, then a solution is to
work on making the communities function better.

I definitely agree that some things are surprisingly difficult, but I
think there are more options than to merely turn to the commercial

Maybe the structures aren't yet in place in certain areas to better
enable this.

> All the commercial distributions
> use their own commercially created artwork and the non-commercial
> distros use the defaults of the desktops with custom wallpapers.
> > These two issues I have seem to be linked by  my feeling that ubuntu is 
> > an organisation who's community only has a pseudo influence over 
> > decisions that really matter. It would be in the ubuntu communities 
> > interest to be a sponsor of GUADEC and to have community involved art 
> > work. 
> That has always been the case, the name SABDFL was chosen for a
> reason, he has always retained the right to decide on any factor of
> the distribution.  But if the community complains loud enough that
> will be heard, as happened with the warty artwork.
> Jonathan

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