[ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 5

Pete Stean peteste at googlemail.com
Fri Aug 3 10:26:07 BST 2007 

On the document sharing issue, you have considered using a shared web-space
to do this? Google offer a solution I think... and it's so 21st century  :)

I have to say, on the note re mailing lists - I *hate* them - they have such
limited functionality it's embarassing. I'm only on this mailing list
because it's the chosen method of the ubuntu-uk community, if I had a choice
we'd be a facebook group, or have an online forum. For one thing, threads
can be incredibly difficult to follow on a serial email list like this
one...

Just my Web 2.0 2p :P

Pete


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>   1. Re:  Freecycle / Ubuntu tie-up???? (John Dow)
>   2. Re:  Freecycle / Ubuntu tie-up???? (Nik Butler)
>   3. Re:  This came in on the local Freecycle (John Dow)
>   4. Re:  Freecycle / Ubuntu tie-up???? (Mark Harrison)
>   5.  Do you rember the days when we used to hang around
>      (Nicholas Butler)
>   6. Re:  Freecycle / Ubuntu tie-up???? (Chris Rowson)
>   7. Re:  This came in on the local Freecycle (alan c)
>   8.  Ubuntu-UK Planet CoC (Michael Wood)
>   9.  'Simple' cron job help... (Josh Blacker)
> 10. Re:  'Simple' cron job help... (Michael Wood)
> 11. Re:  'Simple' cron job help... (Robert McWilliam)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 17:24:55 +0100
> From: "John Dow" <jmd at nelefa.org>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Freecycle / Ubuntu tie-up????
> To: nik at reducedhackers.com, "British Ubuntu Talk"
>        <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID:
>        <2a0f0ec00708020924l4e267d45g128da6d351aeaeb4 at mail.gmail.com>
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> On 8/2/07, Nik Butler <nik at reducedhackers.com> wrote:
> >
> > Lets try to be supportive and encouraging of an though rather than
> > finding ways to block/shutdown/disable contributions from members.
>
>
> You are, of course, completely right - my comment was a knee-jerk reaction
> born out of unreasoning horror and I apologise wholeheartedly for my lack
> of
> control ;-)
>
> Seriously, though, it is a great idea but my personal preference would be
> for a mailing list. I find web groups to be annoying restrictive to use,
> whereas my mail client is always available :)
>
> John
>
>
> --
> John Dow <jmd at nelefa.org>
> http://www.nelefa.org
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> Dreamers come and go, but a dream's forever.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:26:36 +0100
> From: Nik Butler <nik at reducedhackers.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Freecycle / Ubuntu tie-up????
> To: nik at reducedhackers.com, British Ubuntu Talk
>        <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <46B205BC.3060408 at reducedhackers.com>
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> Nik Butler wrote:
> > "Regarding facebook being Evil,"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Wow I was Angry when i posted that ,  its barely readable.
>
> I know you dont see me post here most days ( if ever ! ) but I am
> reading and listening. So whilst it made so little sense I appreciate
> that most people go the Gist.
>
> If you are taking part with the other parts of the online community I
> would invite you to come look me up on
>
> http://www.loudmouthman.com/contact/
>
> Cheers
>
> Nik
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 17:26:35 +0100
> From: "John Dow" <jmd at nelefa.org>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] This came in on the local Freecycle
> To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID:
>        <2a0f0ec00708020926w4939a44ak82efb1b17e7ee88d at mail.gmail.com>
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> On 8/2/07, Alec Wright <alecjw at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 02/08/07, John Dow <jmd at nelefa.org> wrote:
> > > On 8/2/07, alan c <aeclist at candt.waitrose.com> wrote:
> > > > CDs for Library:
> > > > Are these ones you have burned, and what packaging have you used,
> wit
> > > > any instructions or commentary?
> > >
> > > Yeah, I burned a pile of copies of the Edgy Live CD and printed out a
> > little
> > > quickstart guide I wrote, along with links to the various faq sections
> > of
> > > the ubuntu forums.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > Any chance you could show your quick-start guide to the list? 'Cause
> > there's been a lot of talk about leaflets lately.
>
>
> Sure - I'll dig it out when I get home. It aint purty, though.
>
> John
>
>
>
> --
> John Dow <jmd at nelefa.org>
> http://www.nelefa.org
>
> Dreamers come and go, but a dream's forever.
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> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:38:03 +0100
> From: Mark Harrison <Mark at yourpropertyexpert.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Freecycle / Ubuntu tie-up????
> To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <46B2086B.3010702 at yourpropertyexpert.com>
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> The reason I chose facebook is that
>
> 1: There wasn't already an obvious appropriate mailing list (I don't
> consider this a UK initiative)
>
> 2: I could set up a group within 45 seconds. (I have what is politely
> called "A bias for action" - I'd rather get SOME discussion platform
> done straight away than pontificate for hours over what the RIGHT
> solution.)
>
> 3: I suspect that the initiative will die inside about 2 weeks... jf it
> does, then it's cost zero "systems effort" to have the conversation, if
> it doesn't, we can move over to the Wiki.
>
> 4: There are huge numbers of both Facebookers and Ubuntu evangelists
> already on Facebook.
>
> I'm absolutely not wedded to Facebook as a platform of choice going
> forward - if the initiative takes off, it should be rolled into the core
> websites for both Ubuntu and Freecycle  - I sort of regard Facebook as a
> "Rapid Prototyping Environment" for ad hoc social groups.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> John Dow wrote:
> > On 8/2/07, *Nik Butler* <nik at reducedhackers.com
> > <mailto:nik at reducedhackers.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Lets try to be supportive and encouraging of an though rather than
> >     finding ways to block/shutdown/disable contributions from members.
> >
> >
> > You are, of course, completely right - my comment was a knee-jerk
> > reaction born out of unreasoning horror and I apologise wholeheartedly
> > for my lack of control ;-)
> >
> > Seriously, though, it is a great idea but my personal preference would
> > be for a mailing list. I find web groups to be annoying restrictive to
> > use, whereas my mail client is always available :)
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > --
> > John Dow <jmd at nelefa.org <mailto:jmd at nelefa.org>>
> > http://www.nelefa.org
> >
> > Dreamers come and go, but a dream's forever.
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 18:30:02 +0100
> From: Nicholas Butler <nik at reducedhackers.com>
> Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Do you rember the days when we used to hang
>        around
> To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <46B2149A.90907 at reducedhackers.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
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> outside Microsoft conferences and hand out free stuff  ?
>
> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4935923195.html
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 18:51:56 +0100
> From: "Chris Rowson" <christopherrowson at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Freecycle / Ubuntu tie-up????
> To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID:
>        <d6c346600708021051r68e0b92dq8d9136b443b636b5 at mail.gmail.com>
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> > I've created a Facebook group with the following description:
> >
> > If you're interested in doing the following:
> >
> > - Saying "yes" to the odd PC components that always come up on Freecycle
> > - Collecting them, putting them together, installing Ubuntu
> > - Offering a working machine back to your local Freecycle
> >
> > ... then this is the group for you.
> >
> >
> > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=4266486665
> >
> >
>
> Great idea Mark, I've joined :-)
>
> Chris
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 19:56:09 +0100
> From: alan c <aeclist at candt.waitrose.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] This came in on the local Freecycle
> To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <46B228C9.80000 at candt.waitrose.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
> Alec Wright wrote:
> > On 02/08/07, John Dow <jmd at nelefa.org> wrote:
> >> On 8/2/07, alan c <aeclist at candt.waitrose.com> wrote:
> >>> CDs for Library: Are these ones you have burned, and what
> >>> packaging have you used, wit any instructions or commentary?
> >>
> >> Yeah, I burned a pile of copies of the Edgy Live CD and printed
> >> out a little quickstart guide I wrote, along with links to the
> >> various faq sections of the ubuntu forums.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> > Any chance you could show your quick-start guide to the list?
> > 'Cause there's been a lot of talk about leaflets lately.
> >
>
> I have recently typed up the actual text content of the shipit cd
> covers because the wording is both legally and otherwise fairly well
> thought out. I have begun to use it fairly successfully as a *simple*
> folded cover for a paper CD case. The folded cover is from a single
> A4 double sided printed sheet. I have only used mono printing so far
> but the graphic is colour and with a different printer one can get
> fairly close to the effect of a shipit pack, at a much reduced actual
> cost I suspect.
>
> The files are on
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Leaflets
> and specifically are
> leaflet1b-SHIPIT-folded_alan_cocks
> leaflet1b-SHIPIT-folded-instructions_alan_cocks
>
> --
> alan cocks
> Kubuntu user#10391
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 00:18:23 +0100
> From: Michael Wood <admin at x3n.me.uk>
> Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-UK Planet CoC
> To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <46B2663F.6010709 at x3n.me.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
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> There have been a few issues with some of the posts appearing on the
> Ubuntu-UK planet, These haven't really been resolved as we have no
> guidelines to uphold any complaints around. Therefore I propose that
> there should be an code of conduct aimed at the planet.
>
> I have written a draft CoC [1]
>
> There is a meeting on the 12th of August which I am hoping we can agree
> to implement what ever results from this proposal [2]
>
> Before making changes please discuss here !
>
>
> [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ubuntu-uk.org/planet/CoC
> [2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/MeetingNotes/20070812Meeting
>
> Michael "X3N" Wood
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 01:07:39 +0100
> From: "Josh Blacker" <jkblacker at gmail.com>
> Subject: [ubuntu-uk] 'Simple' cron job help...
> To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID:
>        <81e70cbc0708021707p7ef17aebx15ea0f82bb3ecc44 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Being a slight newbie, I'd appreciate some direction with this!
>
> I have an open office file that I'm constantly updating and sharing
> with a friend. Emailing it to him every so often is a chore - what I
> want is a cron script to do this for me, say every evening. Any ideas?
> [As he's on a mac without oo.org, ideally it would save it as a pdf
> first...]
>
> I know I'm probably asking a lot, but I really don't know the simplest
> thing about how to go about this!
>
> TIA,
>
> --
> Josh Blacker
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 01:46:56 +0100
> From: Michael Wood <admin at x3n.me.uk>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] 'Simple' cron job help...
> To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <46B27B00.9090302 at x3n.me.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Josh Blacker wrote:
> > Being a slight newbie, I'd appreciate some direction with this!
> >
> > I have an open office file that I'm constantly updating and sharing
> > with a friend. Emailing it to him every so often is a chore - what I
> > want is a cron script to do this for me, say every evening. Any ideas?
> > [As he's on a mac without oo.org, ideally it would save it as a pdf
> > first...]
> >
> > I know I'm probably asking a lot, but I really don't know the simplest
> > thing about how to go about this!
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> >
> I'd use a perl script like the one here:
> http://www.logix.cz/michal/devel/smtp/
>
> Download from: http://www.logix.cz/michal/devel/smtp/smtp-client.pl
> * *
> with a cron job to check for changes in the file.
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 05:17:35 +0100
> From: Robert McWilliam <rmcw at allmail.net>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] 'Simple' cron job help...
> To: ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <20070803051735.22fc481f at eligeto>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 01:07:39 +0100
> "Josh Blacker" <jkblacker at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have an open office file that I'm constantly updating and sharing
> > with a friend. Emailing it to him every so often is a chore - what I
> > want is a cron script to do this for me, say every evening. Any ideas?
> > [As he's on a mac without oo.org, ideally it would save it as a pdf
> > first...]
>
> Open office can be scripted from a bunch of different languages, a
> python example to convert an OOo file to pdf is available at
> http://www.artofsolving.com/opensource/pyodconverter
>
> Once you have the pdf you need a way of sending it. I'd got for a
> python script, but it can be done in another language or using a mail
> application.
>
> There is an example in python at:
> http://snippets.dzone.com/posts/show/757
>
> Once you have a script that will do the conversion and mail the file
> you need to set up a cron job to trigger the script. A short intro to
> cron:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
>
>
> ________________________________________________________
> Robert McWilliam     rmcw at allmail.net    www.ormiret.com
>
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