[ubuntu-uk] Re: ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 14, Issue 13

"tedsmith28@yahoo.co.uk" tedsmith at f3.org.uk
Wed Jun 14 13:49:43 BST 2006


With regard to the map issue, has anyone considered Frappr (www.Frappr.com)?
I've created one for my F3 site but not yet released it to the public for
viewing. But it's easy to set up, and would suit our needs quite nicely I think
(although it is a seperate link out of the Wiki).

Ted


on 14/6/06 1:45 PM, ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com wrote:

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> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:34:30 +0100
> From: Matthew East <mdke at ubuntu.com>
> Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Re: website discussion
> To: ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
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> Hi Steve,
>
> * Steve Smith:
>> We seem to be wasting a lot of effort at
>> the moment building duplicate infrastructure for something for  which
>> we have no content!  If and when the time comes that we're ready to
>> branch off further we can.
>
> Agreed.
>
>> On 14/06/06, Grant
>> <grant at cherrysupport.com> wrote:
>>> >    I would be particularly keen to get the support points maps a la
>>>  >    Belgian site up on the net.
>>>
>>>  A wiki page seems like a good start for this.
>>
>> Yes, I think it would be best to have it on the wiki.  *But*, can
>> anyone (Matt East/Jonathan Riddell perhaps?) give us a definative
>> answer about if there's any way to get javascript into a wiki page?
>> As I've said before I think it would be most appropriate for us to use
>> Google Maps (see my justification at
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2006-June/000457.html).
>> Even non-Google maps will need some sort of html/script, won't they?
>
> How about we begin with a simple list in wiki markup, and see if the
> project grows sufficiently to justify the creation of a map.
>
> After all, Canonical uses a simple list, and their list is a lot bigger
> than ours right now.
>
> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/marketplace
>
> While on the subject, I think it is important to ensure no overlap
> between the two things - the ubuntu.com page clearly lists commercial
> support contacts. If the uk team is to create a second list, it should
> be limited to free support only, I think, with a link to the relevant
> commercial support page.
>
> Matt
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> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:41:45 +0100
> From: "Leon Barker" <leon.barker at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hi
> To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
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>> It's been mentioned lately that the English-speaking LoCo teams have a
>> slightly different role from the non-English ones; since the main Ubuntu
>> site is in English translation of support materials is obviously
>> irrelevant.  That said, there are plenty of things that are specific to the
>> UK that people around here are keep to develop and the UKTeam wiki pages
>> should give you a good feel for those.
>>
>
> I say translate 'em into Welsh. (then bilingual schools in Wales can use
> edubuntu)
>
> Leon Barker
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> From: Alistair Crust <alistair at skegnessgrammar.org>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hi
> To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 12:41 +0100, Leon Barker wrote:
>>
>>         It's been mentioned lately that the English-speaking LoCo
>>         teams have a slightly different role from the non-English
>>         ones; since the main Ubuntu site is in English translation of
>>         support materials is obviously irrelevant.  That said, there
>>         are plenty of things that are specific to the UK that people
>>         around here are keep to develop and the UKTeam wiki pages
>>         should give you a good feel for those.
>>
>>
>> I say translate 'em into Welsh. (then bilingual schools in Wales can
>> use edubuntu)
>>
>> Leon Barker
>>
>>
> Or scott.. or geordy, cockney, etc.
>
> Hell I live on the southern tip of the wolds in lincs and some times I
> struggle to understand people from the fens (Boston area). I think
> without going overkill we should bring back regional dialects.
>
> wat u sey mee-aty? (what do you say matey in linconshire-ish)
>
> --
> Kind regards
> Alistair Crust
> Systems Administrator
> Skegness Grammar School
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:57:47 +0100
> From: john levin <john at technolalia.org>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hi
> To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <448FF9BB.50501 at technolalia.org>
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> Leon Barker wrote:
>>> It's been mentioned lately that the English-speaking LoCo teams have a
>>> slightly different role from the non-English ones; since the main Ubuntu
>>> site is in English translation of support materials is obviously
>>> irrelevant.  That said, there are plenty of things that are specific
>>> to the
>>> UK that people around here are keep to develop and the UKTeam wiki pages
>>> should give you a good feel for those.
>
>>
>> I say translate 'em into Welsh. (then bilingual schools in Wales can use
>> edubuntu)
>
> Absolutely. Any Welsh speakers on this list that want to get involved in
> translation? The Rosetta group only seems to have one member:
> https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-l10n-cy
>
> John
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 13:10:09 +0100
> From: "Steve Smith" <steve.lists at googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Re: website discussion
> To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID:
> <7faabd490606140510m54cf978cn8cd44f978d8dc459 at mail.gmail.com>
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> On 14/06/06, Matthew East <mdke at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>> How about we begin with a simple list in wiki markup, and see if the
>> project grows sufficiently to justify the creation of a map.
>>
>> After all, Canonical uses a simple list, and their list is a lot bigger
>> than ours right now.
>
> Done - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Support
>
> Could everyone add themselves please (if you'd like to, of course)!
> If you could keep all your details on a separate wiki page like I've
> done that will keep things nice and clear - especially if we end up
> with a big list.
>
> I think a map would still be cool, but I can see your point.  Come to
> think of it, a list is infinitely more accessible to the blind than a
> map, and accessiblity is something I'm a bit of a pedant with.
>
>> While on the subject, I think it is important to ensure no overlap
>> between the two things - the ubuntu.com page clearly lists commercial
>> support contacts. If the uk team is to create a second list, it should
>> be limited to free support only, I think, with a link to the relevant
>> commercial support page.
>
> That's a good point, hadn't crossed my mind.  I've put a link like you
> suggested.
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 13:14:51 +0100
> From: "Steve Smith" <steve.lists at googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hi
> To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID:
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> On 14/06/06, Leon Barker <leon.barker at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I say translate 'em into Welsh. (then bilingual schools in Wales can use
>> edubuntu)
>
> On 14/06/06, john levin <john at technolalia.org> wrote:
>> Absolutely. Any Welsh speakers on this list that want to get involved in
>> translation? The Rosetta group only seems to have one member:
>> https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-l10n-cy
>
> Here here!  Sadly my Welsh is very much at beginner level.  One of my
> best friends is Welsh-first-language speaking, but she doesn't share
> my computer obsession.  I'll keep an eye out for anyone I can drag
> into it though :-P
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 13:44:46 +0100
> From: "tedsmith28 at yahoo.co.uk" <tedsmith at f3.org.uk>
> Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Re: ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 14, Issue 11
> To: <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <E1FqUjm-0007hR-68 at medusa.hosts.co.uk>
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> Thanks Steve, I am excited to be part of a bigger Ubuntu 'project'. I have
added
> my details to the Wiki page as you suggested. I see our numbers are growing
:-)
>
> Cheers
>
> Ted (Smith)
>
> on 14/6/06 6:50 AM, ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com wrote:
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>> 1.  Hi (Ted Smith (F3 Web Site Administrator))
>> 2. Re:  Hi (Stephen Parkes)
>> 3.  Default Mail and Browser Apps (Gordon Burgess-Parker)
>> 4.  Re: Default Mail and Browser Apps (Dion Le Blanc)
>> 5. Re:  Re: Default Mail and Browser Apps (Gordon Burgess-Parker)
>> 6.  Re: Re: Default Mail and Browser Apps (Dion Le Blanc)
>> 7. Re:  Default Mail and Browser Apps (Paul Sladen)
>> 8. Re:  Hi (Steve Smith)
>> 9.  Ubuntu-UK marketing page (Steve Smith)
>> 10.  Re: Ubuntu-UK marketing page (Steve Smith)
>> 11.  website discussion (Grant)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:58:38 +0100
>> From: "Ted Smith (F3 Web Site Administrator)" <tedsmith at f3.org.uk>
>> Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Hi
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>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:09:32 +0100
>> From: "Stephen Parkes" <sparkes at westmids.biz>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hi
>> To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Message-ID:
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>> On 6/12/06, Ted Smith (F3 Web Site Administrator) <tedsmith at f3.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>  You can read all about me here
>>
>> Open up guys it's Customs and Excise ;)
>>
>> --
>> Steve 'sparkes' Parkes - tshirts http://nerd.ws - code http://zx-81.com
>> Autistic LUG http://autisticlug.org - blog http://sp.arkes.co.uk
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:00:24 +0100
>> From: Gordon Burgess-Parker <gordon.burgessparker at yahoo.co.uk>
>> Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Default Mail and Browser Apps
>> To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Message-ID: <200606122300.25041.>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> It appears that Kubuntu 6.06 has made no advance on 5.10 - mailto links in
Web
>> pages only appear to work if Konqueror and Kmail are selected as defaults -
>> so WHY the option to specify other browsers and mail clients as default? can
>> someone pass this on to the Kubuntu team as a serious deficiency?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> ___________________________________________________________
>> Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail.
>> http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:13:11 +1200
>> From: Dion Le Blanc <dionleblanc at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Re: Default Mail and Browser Apps
>> To: ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Message-ID: <1745574.d0nCzrWxDk at rebellion.corn>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
>>
>>> It appears that Kubuntu 6.06 has made no advance on 5.10 - mailto links in
>>> Web pages only appear to work if Konqueror and Kmail are selected as
>>> defaults - so WHY the option to specify other browsers and mail clients as
>>> default? can someone pass this on to the Kubuntu team as a serious
>>> deficiency?
>>>
>>
>> Rubbish....firefox and kmail work fine for me. I fail to see why you
>> would want any other mailer than kmail anyway. It is by far the best that I
>> have used, thunderbird is slow and klunky and tries to be the open source
>> version of microsoft products as does evolution.
>>
>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:10:54 +0100
>> From: Gordon Burgess-Parker <gordon.burgessparker at yahoo.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Re: Default Mail and Browser Apps
>> To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Message-ID: <200606130710.54652.gordon.burgessparker at yahoo.co.uk>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> On Tuesday 13 June 2006 00:13, Dion Le Blanc wrote:
>>> Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
>>> > It appears that Kubuntu 6.06 has made no advance on 5.10 - mailto links
>>> > in Web pages only appear to work if Konqueror and Kmail are selected as
>>> > defaults - so WHY the option to specify other browsers and mail clients
>>> > as default? can someone pass this on to the Kubuntu team as a serious
>>> > deficiency?
>>>
>>>    Rubbish....firefox and kmail work fine for me.
>>
>> I'm sorry, it's NOT rubbish. there is a post in a newsgroup about it as well.
>> If i select Firefox and Thunderbird, or Firefox and Kmail as defaults, then
>> Mailto links DO NOT WORK. If I select KMail and Konqueror as default then
>> Mailto links DO work. A BUG or a deficiency. Just as in Ubuntu, you CANNOT
>> change the "right-click, send to" mail client from Evolution.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ___________________________________________________________
>> All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease
> of
>> use." - PC Magazine
>> http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
>>
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:24:12 +1200
>> From: Dion Le Blanc <dionleblanc at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Re: Re: Default Mail and Browser Apps
>> To: ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Message-ID: <2405249.1C9K4sOX6n at rebellion.corn>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday 13 June 2006 00:13, Dion Le Blanc wrote:
>>>> Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
>>>> > It appears that Kubuntu 6.06 has made no advance on 5.10 - mailto links
>>>> > in Web pages only appear to work if Konqueror and Kmail are selected as
>>>> > defaults - so WHY the option to specify other browsers and mail clients
>>>> > as default? can someone pass this on to the Kubuntu team as a serious
>>>> > deficiency?
>>>>
>>>>    Rubbish....firefox and kmail work fine for me.
>>>
>>> I'm sorry, it's NOT rubbish. there is a post in a newsgroup about it as
>>> well. If i select Firefox and Thunderbird, or Firefox and Kmail as
>>> defaults, then Mailto links DO NOT WORK. If I select KMail and Konqueror
>>> as default then Mailto links DO work. A BUG or a deficiency. Just as in
>>> Ubuntu, you CANNOT change the "right-click, send to" mail client from
>>> Evolution.
>>>
>>
>> I guess it doesn't work for me then...sorry yes it does,,,I don't know
>> what you're doing wrong or I'm doing right. However it does work for me,
>> try telling us what you have tried rather than  a blanket statement about
>> it not working.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:38:14 +0100 (BST)
>> From: Paul Sladen <ubuntu at paul.sladen.org>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Default Mail and Browser Apps
>> To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0606131036260.9557-100000 at starsky.19inch.net>
>> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>>
>> On Mon, 12 Jun 2006, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
>>> mailto links in Web pages only appear to work if Konqueror and Kmail are
>>> selected as defaults - so WHY the option to specify other browsers and
>>> mail clients as default? can someone pass this on to the Kubuntu team as
>>> a serious deficiency?
>>
>> Please can you file a bug report:
>>
>> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/konqueror/+filebug
>>
>> That's the best way to pass it onto the developers!  --The same applies for
>> all bug;  they can't be fixed if they're unknown and they will rename
>> unknown if there are no bug reports.
>>
>> -Paul
>> --
>> High on a Spanish mountain, surrounded by howling dogs.  Guildford, GB
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:33:31 +0100
>> From: "Steve Smith" <steve.lists at googlemail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hi
>> To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <7faabd490606131633i3e746c92n46fe9a99668749bc at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hi Ted
>>
>> Good to see someone new here!  We're making progress with the UKTeam wiki
>> pages (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam) in the last week or two, so I've
>> added you to the members list there.  Don't think there are only four people
>> - it's just that everyone hasn't added there names yet!  There's no formal
>> "joining" to be done, just dive right in and contribute where you can.  If
>> there's anything you feel you can bring to the UKTeam wiki pages edit away.
>>
>> It's been mentioned lately that the English-speaking LoCo teams have a
>> slightly different role from the non-English ones; since the main Ubuntu
>> site is in English translation of support materials is obviously
>> irrelevant.  That said, there are plenty of things that are specific to the
>> UK that people around here are keep to develop and the UKTeam wiki pages
>> should give you a good feel for those.
>>
>> Steve :)
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SteveSmith
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>> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 01:51:58 +0100
>> From: "Steve Smith" <steve.lists at googlemail.com>
>> Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-UK marketing page
>> To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Message-ID:
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>> hi!
>>
>> is the GeemanUK link under "places to get CDs" deliberate because you're
>> offering CDs, or is it a mistake?  I was about to delete it when I was
>> clearing up, but then thought hang on a minute... :)
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>> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 01:53:28 +0100
>> From: "Steve Smith" <steve.lists at googlemail.com>
>> Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Re: Ubuntu-UK marketing page
>> To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Message-ID:
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>> Sorry!  This thread wasn't meant to be sent to the mailing list, I hit the
>> wrong button!
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On 14/06/06, Steve Smith <steve.lists at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> hi!
>>>
>>> is the GeemanUK link under "places to get CDs" deliberate because you're
>>> offering CDs, or is it a mistake?  I was about to delete it when I was
>>> clearing up, but then thought hang on a minute... :)
>>>
>>> Steve
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>> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 06:50:14 +0100
>> From: "Grant" <grant at cherrysupport.com>
>> Subject: [ubuntu-uk] website discussion
>> To: <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Message-ID: <000501c68f76$687615c0$39624140$@com>
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>> See my comments after the ** in response to your points
>>
>> J
>>
>>
>>
>>>    I would be particularly keen to get the support points maps a la
>>>    Belgian site up on the net.
>>
>> A wiki page seems like a good start for this.
>>
>>>    I sent Matthais,  an email which I hope he has copied you on.
>>>    Otherwise here is  a brief summary from memory (and my google cache).
>>
>> Which Matthais?
>>
>> **Matthias Urlichs, who is the primary contact on the wiki ref ubuntu
>> hosting and getting ubuntu to host our own webforums, or support points
>> code.
>>
>>
>>
>>>    Please can you tell me what the policies are regarding using ubuntu to
>>>    host the team's web pages, Weblog and forums.
>>
>> Currently I have access to the web page.
>>
>> What would a blog be for?
>>
>> **Having a hosted weblog would be a useful asset as people could post up
>> news comments, etc which could be read by the general public and subscribed
>> to via rss.
>>
>> I don't see a need for forums, the official ones are already in English.
>>
>> Forums, Would be a really useful aspect particularly as we would have a
>> location to discuss various aspects which are directly UK related , such as
>> Steve and I have done here:
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Marketing
>>
>>>    (1) co-ordinating our own work
>>>
>>>    (2) providing local support contacts and info on availaility of
>>>    Ubuntu-compatible hardware (eg what things that PC World etc sell that
>>>    the 'average home user' can get to work with Ubuntu easily), and so on
>>>
>>>    I suggest that (1) could remain on the UKTeam's wiki pages (
>>>
>>>    [2]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeams) to remain integrated with the
>>>    Ubuntu community at large, and (2) could be on ubuntu-uk.org to
>>>    provide local support free from organisational clutter and geek-speak.
>>
>> I'd suggest starting 2 on the wiki as well for now.
>>
>>>    John has pointed out that there are many businesses and events
>>>    involved in Ubuntu that could do with being co-ordinated in the UK.
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> Including your surname in your From address is helpful.
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