So, now it looks like we will never get a phone, ever

Sat Apr 8 10:47:03 UTC 2017

"10-15 years until they are mature, I really don't get why phonedevelopment is not being given the same chance."
Nokia did not. The Problem with this phone was that it was never a phone: "first things first". If the phone used to function properly as a phone (NOKIA 3210), there would be a platform to develop it further (to Nokia N52). Ubuntu Phone was like a Maseratti without wheels: convergence yes, but You can not hear a call or an incoming message nor synchronize Your contacts.
This is already the second time when I see how all the hard work goes down the drain: You didn't mention Ubuntu is going back to GNOME. All we did for GNOME 2 was killed with the immature Unity idea (I tried to work with this environment twice and one day I decided to switch to MATE-Unity was like a step back from a 101-keyboard to a 12-button cellphone).
All what someone does over there (Canonical) is splitting the community (GNOME to Unity switch + now killing UTouch) and discouraging people who sacrificed their time. I'm happy that apart from the phone project I didn't waste to much time translating Unity.
Flooded in grief
GTriderXC

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  1. Re: So, now it looks like we will never get a phone, ever
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Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 10:08:00 +0200
From: F?ram na G?idhlig <fios at foramnagaidhlig.net>
To: Neil Jerram <neil at tigera.io>,
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Subject: Re: So, now it looks like we will never get a phone, ever
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Well, that's a tinker phone. Nice for geeks like us, but for the average
user, not so much. I am talking about a phone for the average
computer-illierate who doesn't know any more about computer than swipe &
tap. We really need something out-of-the-box.

Even as a computer literate, I estimate that I'l need to spend at least
half an hour on their homepage doing some RTFM before I'll even
understand how to get the thing.

>From my experience as a localizer, most big FLOSS projects take about
10-15 years until they are mature, I really don't get why phone
development is not being given the same chance.

Sgr?obh Neil Jerram na leanas 07/04/2017 aig 09:46:
> If a free (libre) smartphone is your interest, the place to be is the
> GTA04 community (http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-main/).
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 8:50 PM F?ram na G?idhlig
> <fios at foramnagaidhlig.net <mailto:fios at foramnagaidhlig.net>> wrote:
> 
>    Hi all,
> 
>    Canonical is axing the developement of the phone and tablet:
> 
>    https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/
> 
>    Same story as with what Mozilla did to us: We spent years developing a
>    phone, localizing and creating a keyboard and a couple 100$ on devices
>    out of our private purses for testing, only for the project to be axed
>    before it had a chance to take off, because the "Internet of Things"
>    seems to be more attractive.
> 
>    We can also forget about getting our languages on iOS or Android,
>    because the manufacturers will decide which language are allowed on each
>    phone, not the user. So, if you're not one of the big 10-20 who happen
>    to be living in the wrong country, tough luck.
> 
>    After Adaptxt was axed and we had to move to Swiftkey, iOS isn't even
>    allowing our keyboard locale.
> 
> 
>    So, this is another VERY BLACK day for our languages, and a sad day for
>    all those developers who spent so much effort into giving us a free (as
>    in freedom) phone.
> 
>    I hope this mail reaches the powers that be.
> 
>    GunChleoc
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