No KDE translations needed for Quantal

[Yuri Chornoivan]

написане Mon, 06 Aug 2012 14:08:53 +0300, David Planella  
<david.planella at ubuntu.com>:

> Al 06/08/12 12:58, En/na Yuri Chornoivan ha escrit:
>> написане Mon, 06 Aug 2012 11:44:54 +0300, David Planella
>> <david.planella at ubuntu.com>:
>>
>>> Al 04/08/12 07:24, En/na Adolfo Jayme Barrientos ha escrit:
>>>> Well, that's nice. We should now update translations upstream so our
>>>> fixes can go to other distros as well.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Adolfo,
>>>
>>> Note that you could exactly do that even before that change.
>>>
>>> The biggest change is that Kubuntu translations will now not be shipped
>>> in language packs, thus they will remain static and you won't be able  
>>> to
>>> complete or fix any strings after release.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> David.
>>>
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> Actually, this is not full truth. Every minor KDE release (monthly) is
>> shipped with updated translations, while Ubuntu langpacks are released
>> very irregularly with unpredictable delays.
>>
>
> Hi Yuri,
>
> I did not mention that there aren't KDE updates. I was simply stating
> the fact that after release there won't be KDE translation updates in
> Ubuntu. That is, even if there are monthly minor releases from KDE, they
> will not make it into Ubuntu after release.
>
> Now it would actually be a good idea to get those minor releases every
> now and then as an SRU, so I'd suggest discussing it with the Kubuntu  
> team.
>
> Regarding the language pack schedule, it is defined here:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/PreciseLanguagePackReleaseSchedule

Ubuntu translation teams almost never test Kubuntu:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LanguagePackUpdatesQA

Untested langpacks will not be released, won't they? So I think it is not  
a big lost. ;)

> As any other part of Ubuntu, it is open to contribution, so if anyone
> wants to ensure the language packs are released regularly, they should
> feel free to help making it happen.

As many other parts of Ubuntu, it would be great if Ubuntu uses upstream  
capabilities and does not waste the FOSS-supporters time for Ubuntu-only  
solutions. All other (non-Ubuntu based) distributions do this, so why  
can't Ubuntu do? ;)

Some thoughts on the practical side:

1. Are there any plans to propose the translations of Kubuntu to upstream  
as ready to commit packages for KDE l10n-kde4?

2. What is the fate of Kubuntu-only translations of 12.04 and previous  
versions? They will be wasted, right?

3. Will there be any any communique from Ubuntu Council for those who  
translated Kubuntu if they have their translations wasted?

Thanks in advance for the answers.

Best regards,
Yuri

>
> Thanks.
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
>> Just my 2 cents.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Yuri
>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Jonathan Riddell
>>>> <jriddell at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> KDE packages have now moved to universe and we are using the language
>>>>> packs from upstream directly for KDE SC.  So no translations should  
>>>>> be
>>>>> needed for KDE applications in quantal.  Applications which come from
>>>>> Ubuntu and have a KDE frontend such as Ubiquity will still need
>>>>> translations.  You are encouraged to directly work with KDE language
>>>>> teams for translations to KDE software. http://l10n.kde.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>
>>
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