Firefox translations status in Natty

[David Planella]

El dj 20 de 01 de 2011 a les 14:10 +0200, en/na Khaled Hosny va
escriure:
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 09:56:24AM +0100, David Planella wrote:
> > El dt 18 de 01 de 2011 a les 21:56 +0200, en/na Khaled Hosny va
> > escriure:
> > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 04:00:09PM +0100, David Planella wrote:
> > > > Hi translators,
> > > > 
> > > > I thought I'd give you a quick update on the Firefox translations in
> > > > Natty:
> > > > 
> > > > Due to a change in the way upstream packages translations, those of you
> > > > who are testing Natty will have noticed that Firefox is in English only.
> > > > 
> > > > During the Canonical Platform Rally last week we worked on fixing this
> > > > to import translations into Launchpad and put them in the language
> > > > packs. Special thanks go to Danilo on his great work on modifying po2xpi
> > > > for the new format [1], Chris Coulson for getting the Firefox en-US
> > > > template to build automatically and Martin Pitt to integrate the po2xpi
> > > > changes into langpack-o-matic [2], which will allow to build the Firefox
> > > > translations and put them into the language packs.
> > > > 
> > > > If all goes well, most of the translations should be available after
> > > > Alpha-2 on February the 3rd.
> > > > 
> > > >       * Once they are available, please make sure to test them well and
> > > >         report any bugs you might find.
> > > 
> > 
> > Hi Khaled,
> > 
> > > In Arabic translation for Mozilla, we transliterate the branding names;
> > > Firefox and Mozilla Firefox, however I noticed that Ubuntu supplied
> > > translation lacks the branding file and thus we get the English branding
> > > which is bit annoying (personally it is annoying to the degree that I
> > > always install the XPI file from Mozilla to get around this) any idea
> > > about this issue?
> > > 
> > 
> > I don't know much about the branding, so if you tell me a bit more
> > perhaps I could investigate why it is not used. I'd be interested in
> > questions such as:
> > 
> >       * What and where is the branding file?
> 
> There are two files in the official lang pack missing from Ubuntu's:
> 
> locale/branding/brand.dtd
> locale/branding/brand.properties
> 

Ah, I see it now. I think I understand what happened, and I've reported
it as a bug:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/705392

It seems that the en-US.xpi file we generate from the upstream sources
is missing those two files. We effectively use that file as a template,
in the same way we use .pot files. If the translatable strings are not
in the template, they are marked as "obsolete" in the translations,
that's why they're not being used.

> The corresponding en-US files are included in the firefox-branding
> package, so I guess we need a mechanism to get localised branding in a
> similar way.
> 
> >       * Which are the most visible places in which you see the branding
> >         not being applied in Ubuntu?
> 
> Every where the names "Firefox" or "Mozilla Firefox" are used inside
> filrefox, since the names are variables that takes its value from the
> branding files. Places like window title bar, help menu, about dialog
> and any long message mentioning the name of the application, which is
> quit visible.
> 

Ok, I understand.

> I just noticed now the about dialog is half translated; the text
> "Firefox and Firefox logos bla bla bla" is not translated in Ubuntu
> though it is upstream (I'm still on 10.04 and the machine running 10.10
> just died yesterday so I can't test newer releases).
> 

Yeah, those strings are in /chrome/ar/locale/branding/brand.dtd, so they
are part of the same bug.

> > > > In addition to that, while importing some upstream translations we
> > > > noticed a couple of bugs. These need to be fixed upstream, so I'd like
> > > > to ask the teams affected to coordinate with upstream to fix them.
> > > > 
> > > > Here are the bugs in Launchpad with upstream links:
> > > > 
> > > > Brazilian Portuguese:
> > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/704210
> > > > 
> > > > Norwegian Nynorsk:
> > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/704202
> > > > 
> > > > Oriya:
> > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/704205
> > > > 
> > > > Telugu:
> > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/704208
> > > > 
> > > > Tamil:
> > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/704211
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >       * Please work with the upstream teams to get these fixed. In the
> > > >         meantime, you can fix them in the xpi files for Ubuntu [3] and
> > > >         upload them.
> > > > 
> > > > Finally, just a note to say that we imported the translations from [4].
> > > > I know some teams haven't got their translations in there yet, only on
> > > > Mercurial. We've only imported the official ones for now. If you need
> > > > your non-official translation to get imported, let us know and we'll see
> > > > if we can figure something out.
> > > 
> > > What about translation updates after beta9, will there be an automated
> > > sync with upstream?
> > > 
> > 
> > Right now the translation updates are manual, but we'd like them to be
> > automated with every package upload, as it happens with the majority of
> > the packages. We'll try to implement this as soon as possible.
> > 
> > If this were not to be ready before Natty, I'll take care of manually
> > updating the translations for the final version of Firefox before the
> > Natty release date.
> 
> Great!
> 
> Regards,
>  Khaled
> 

Regards,
David.

-- 
David Planella
Ubuntu Translations Coordinator
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