UNR translations now open in Karmic

[David Planella]

Kaixo Mikel,

El dv 11 de 09 de 2009 a les 17:13 +0200, en/na Mikel Pascual va
escriure:
> I guess basque was lucky, as I was able translate it (webfav is the
> only one not ready yet).
> for example, a bad translation already corrected:
> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/netbook-remix-launcher/trunk/+pots/netbook-launcher/eu/10/+translate
> 
> maybe, been one of the first in the alphabet got us in the front row of import?
> 

I think there is some confusion here, so I'll try to explain:

      * Where did translations come from?: the UNR upstream project has
        been open for translations since Jaunty. Initially, some
        translations were done privately, and then they were released
        publicly and assigned to Ubuntu translators, so that they could
        correct them (if necessary) and complete them for Ubuntu.

      * Why do some of the translations have Kyle's name as last
        translator?: there was some (initial) manual work involved in
        merging some private translations and giving priority to
        community translations. This was done with a set of scripts
        developed by Kyle, who also did the translation uploads.
        Unfortunately, not in all cases was possible to keep the last
        translator's name, but if you change translations in Launchpad,
        you'll be credited with the translation as usual. In the last
        uploads, Kyle has also changed that field "Ubuntu Translators",
        though.

      * Upstream/Downstream: the string you are mentioning is from the
        upstream project. There was no import there. The translations
        come from those in Jaunty. Let me explain what the difference
        betwenn upstream and downstream is in our case, taking the
        netbook-launcher package as an example:
              * This is the upstream project's location, where we
                recommend you do the translations. They will then be
                transferred to Ubuntu:
                      * https://translations.launchpad.net/netbook-remix-launcher
                      * You can access this translation from the UNR
                        superproject location in Launchpad:
                        https://translations.launchpad.net/unr
              * This is the downstream project's location, where we
                recommend you to do fixes if necessary. We will also
                take these corrections to upstream:
                      * https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/netbook-launcher/
                      * You can access this translation from the usual
                        list of Ubuntu templates:
                        https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/


I hope this helps clarifying things. You can also have a look at the
links I included in my original message, which will take you to previous
announcements and more information.

Regards,
David.

> 
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Kyle Nitzsche
> <kyle.nitzsche at canonical.com> wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > The translations were done upstream partly by Ubuntu Translators and partly
> > by professional translators. Google translator was never used, nor was
> > anything "imported" from anywhere. Everyone took the work seriously and did
> > the best job they could, which does not mean there are no errors. However, I
> > am a little surprised that you have found bad translations in Rosetta since
> > the translations have not been imported yet and are currently empty...
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kyle
> >
> >
> > Mikel Pascual wrote:
> >>
> >> I missed this one. Thanks for the announcement.
> >>
> >> By the way, where did these translations come from? I mean, they
> >> appear to be translated by Kyle, so I guess he imported them from
> >> somewhere.
> >> I had to change a lot of them (lot of them seemed to be
> >> GoogleTranslator-made, nonsense). Maybe I should check any translation
> >> coming from that source.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2009/9/11 David Planella <david.planella at ubuntu.com>:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Hi translators,
> >>>
> >>> We're pleased to announce that UNR translations are now open for Karmic.
> >>>
> >>> This is being done as part of the public UNR Karmic translations spec
> >>> [1]. Previously we had announced that translations were open in the
> >>> upstream project [2], which should be the primary target for ongoing
> >>> translation activities.
> >>>
> >>> This is now the second step: opening up downstream Karmic translations
> >>> for corrections and updates through the usual language pack mechanism.
> >>>
> >>> Let me stress this again: the upstream project should still be the
> >>> primary source for translation in Karmic and Karmic+1, and those
> >>> translations will then flow downstream to the distribution, where we
> >>> recommend that only bug fixes are performed.
> >>>
> >>> If you want to start translating for a new language during the stable
> >>> release, we also recommend doing this upstream and then using the global
> >>> suggestions feature (point and click) to translate downstream and let
> >>> the new language be included in the regular language packs.
> >>>
> >>> The reason we adopted this approach is to minimize later work to
> >>> upstream (i.e. applying downstream translation fixes to the upstream
> >>> project) Karmic translation work.
> >>>
> >>> Here you'll find the links to the translations:
> >>>
> >>> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/netbook-launcher
> >>> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/desktop-switcher
> >>> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/go-home-applet
> >>>
> >>> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/window-picker-applet
> >>>
> >>> We also mentioned webfav in the past, which is a Firefox extension to
> >>> bookmark favourites that contains one translatable string. We're still
> >>> working on this, as it requires non-trivial packaging changes for
> >>> exporting the translations to the language packs. The release date being
> >>> near, it is very unlikely that this is done for Karmic. On the positive
> >>> side, the extension has already got translations for 30 languages.
> >>>
> >>> More information:
> >>>
> >>> * [1] Blueprint:
> >>>
> >>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-unr-karmic-translations
> >>> * [2] Upstream project links: https://translations.launchpad.net/unr
> >>> * Previous announcement:
> >>>
> >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-translators/2009-August/002692.html
> >>>
> >>> Please, do not hesitate to ask if you've got any questions, and happy
> >>> translating!
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> David and Kyle.
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
-- 
David Planella
Ubuntu Translations Coordinator
david(dot)planella(at)ubuntu(dot)com
www.ubuntu.com



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