Angolan and Cape Verdean users

[Carlos Perelló Marín]

On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 12:16 -0500, Og Maciel wrote:
> Actually, it wouldn't be imposing since the translations to pt_PT
> don't even amount to 10%...  If you were to consider the 30-something
> percent of the pt_BR translations in the equation, we could all,
> Brazilians, Portuguese, Angoleans, etc, etc work on one single
> language pack that would initially be seeded with 30% of pt_BR
> translations...  but 30% should be better than 10%... or even 0%...

As far as I know, Brazilian people prefer English strings vs. Portuguese
from Portugal translations. In their opinion, the language has changed
already a lot and it's a bit hard to understand each other a bit.

I don't speak Portuguese (none of its variants) so I cannot say that
it's true, but I tend to believe it's true if most of the Brazilian
people I know say that.

With the information I know, I don't think that people from Portugal
will be happy if we change all translations to Brazilian Portuguese.

Anyway, we don't have (yet) anyway to merge all those locales into a
single one with launchpad tools so this would need some voodoo magic
using .po files directly, after that, we can remove old locales from
Rosetta, but I will be against it if I don't get the confirmation from
all sides (Thinking on LoCo/translation teams here) that all agree on
doing something so big like this.

This decision has other main impact, upstream. We either block imports
from upstream to prevent that pt_BR and/or pt_PT locales are created
again, losing any updates they do, or you try to include them into this
big change.

Cheers.

> 
> On 2/17/06, Matthew East <mdke at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 12:03 -0500, Og Maciel wrote:
> > > Hey Matt,
> > >
> > > Going back to the stats I got from LP, it seems that the Brazilian PT
> > > translation is by far more advanced than the other 2 branches.  If we
> > > can get a hold of the pt_PT admin and receive his consent, could we
> > > turn the pt_BR the default portuguese language pack, rename it to be
> > > PT only, and remove any other pt remaining?  I'm putting myself at the
> > > service of the portuguese speaking community to then spearhead,
> > > together with volunteers from all branches, to unify it.  Anyone
> > > against it?  From the technical POV, could someone do this (from
> > > Rosetta, LP, etc) with me?
> >
> > It is technically possible, but extremely undesirable. This would turn
> > the Portuguese version of Ubuntu into a brazilian version, and I
> > understand that the two dialects are very different. I believe that
> > those members of the Brazilian team that are able to translate into
> > "international" Portuguese should do so, but mass copying or merging is
> > a very bad idea indeed, I think.
> >
> > My view is that in general, translation teams can work together,
> > depending on the level of divergence in dialects. However, mass imposing
> > a dialect on another one is a bad idea.
> >
> > --
> > mdke at ubuntu.com
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> 
> --
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> 
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> 
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Carlos Perelló Marín
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