New Project name of Ubuntu Muslim Edition

A.B. mdih at free.Fr
Mer 18 Mar 07:08:58 GMT 2009


en fait je m'étais arrêté qu'à leur feuille de route. Cela étant dit
apparemment Canonical leur avait écrit depuis mai 2008. Bah c'est très
bien sabili avec un sous titre ce sera clair. Je vais me rajouter sur la
mailing list d'ubuntu muslim edition.
A+
Le mardi 17 mars 2009 à 22:17 +0100, Abdelmonam Kouka a écrit :
> Wa alaykom assalem,
> 
> Merci pour les remarques sauf que le vote a été fait depuis un mois :)
> en plus l'utilisation du mot "ubuntu" en soit même pose un probleme
> chez canonical.
> 
> Une autre bonne nouvelle: coté africain le mot "Sabili" en language
> Swahili veut dire "Free" :) donc 3asfourin ib7ajra wa7da :D
> 
> 2009/3/17 A.B. <mdih at free.fr>
>         Salam,
>         
>         Je pense que l'appeler Ubuntu Me Sabili est une bonne idée car
>         c'est un
>         nom qui est chargé de sens. Cependant pour l'utilisateur non
>         averti, il
>         ne comprendra pas s'il est indien ou indonésien (la majorité
>         des
>         mususlmans ne sont pas arabophones). Cela dit cela pourra
>         l'inciter à
>         aller se renseigner. C'est pourquoi je propose de l'appeler
>         Ubuntu
>         Muslim Release (c'est la meme chose Edition ss qu'on dise
>         Edition, on
>         comprend tout de suite, c'est en anglais ce qui est clair) et
>         de mettre
>         comme slogan  أقرou أقرأ باسم ربك
>         ce qui permet d'insister sur l'idée de savoir et de
>         connaissance qui est
>         très importante dans le logiciel libre et dans ubuntu. La aya
>         de sourate
>         youssef, elle est sympa mais elle donne l'impression que
>         l'utilisateur
>         d'ubuntu est isolé et qu'il prêche dans le désert.
>         
>         On peut aussi l'appeler Ubuntu Sabili et mettre en sous titre
>         the ubuntu
>         muslim release ce qui incite les gens à savoir ce que veut
>         dire sabili
>         et en terme de reconnaissance et d'image de marque est très
>         clair et
>         explicite.
>         
>         Mabrouk pour le mariage
>         A+
>         
>         Mdih
>         Le lundi 16 mars 2009 à 21:43 +0100, Abdelmonam Kouka a
>         écrit :
>         
>         > 2009/3/16 Nizar Kerkeni <nizar.kerkeni at gmail.com>
>         >         Bonjour,
>         >         Qu'est ce qu'il y a eu comme changement dans la
>         politique de
>         >         canonical
>         >         pour que des noms comme ça ne sont plus autorisés ?
>         >         Amicalement
>         > Voici le mail de la part de Mehdi l'admin du projet, il
>         contient
>         > l'explication:
>         >
>         >
>         > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>         > From: <jmehdi at ubuntume.com>
>         > Date: 2009/1/21
>         > Subject: [UbuntuME] [Fwd: Re: Ubuntu Muslim Edition]
>         > To: ubuntume.team at lists.launchpad.net
>         > Cc: ubuntume at googlegroups.com
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > Canonical contacted us last may, but the email was sent to
>         Rashid, and
>         > either he didn't get it or didn't forward it  :(
>         >
>         > so let's go for a new name!
>         >
>         > Mehdi
>         >
>         >
>         > ----- Forwarded message from michelle at canonical.com -----
>         >    Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:42:34 +0000
>         >    From: Michelle Surtees-Myers <michelle at canonical.com>
>         > Reply-To: Michelle Surtees-Myers <michelle at canonical.com>
>         >  Subject: [Fwd: Re: Ubuntu Muslim Edition]
>         >      To: jmehdi at ubuntume.com
>         >
>         > Dear Mehdi,
>         >
>         > Thank you for contacting us.
>         >
>         > I have attached below the original response I sent to a
>         member of your
>         > team with regard to the request to use Ubuntu Muslim
>         Edition.  I got
>         > this name from your website.
>         >
>         > As you can see, my email was sent in May 2008.
>         >
>         > Unfortunately we cannot allow you to use Ubuntu Muslim
>         Edition. The
>         > word
>         > Edition has a very specific meaning for the Ubuntu project
>         and we do
>         > not
>         > allow different projects to refer to editions.
>         >
>         > The attached email outlines our position in more detail.
>         >
>         > I am sorry for any work that you will have to do to change
>         the name,
>         > but
>         > as I said, I did write to you last year about this.
>         >
>         > I trust that you understand our position in this regard.
>         >
>         > Kind regards,
>         >
>         > Michelle
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > -------- Original Message --------
>         > Subject:        Re: Ubuntu Muslim Edition
>         > Date:   Thu, 01 May 2008 12:41:26 +0100
>         > From:   Michelle Surtees-Myers <michelle at canonical.com>
>         > To:     rashid786 at gmail.com
>         > CC:     Jeroen Vermeulen <jtv at canonical.com>
>         > References:     <47FB5BD1.2050009 at canonical.com>
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > To whom it may concern,
>         >
>         > I hope that I am contacting the right person in this regard,
>         but if
>         > not,
>         > please let me know who I should contact. I work as part of
>         the
>         > Trademark
>         > team at Canonical.
>         >
>         > While we greatly appreciate your enthusiasm for Ubuntu, and
>         appreciate
>         > the time and effort you devote to the project, I'm afraid
>         there are
>         > trademark related issues with your project. We've tried to
>         define a
>         > reasonable trademark policy that allows people to customise
>         Ubuntu,
>         > and
>         > use the marks to promote the project, while at the same
>         preserving the
>         > integrity of the marks.  In case you haven't seen it, that
>         policy is
>         > at
>         >
>         >  http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
>         >
>         > There are trademark issues with the Ubuntu Muslim Edition
>         and to the
>         > url
>         > ubuntume.
>         >
>         > In terms of our trademark policy, we do not allow the use of
>         the word
>         > Edition. Edition is a special word in the Ubuntu project and
>         calling
>         > something an Edition implies that this is part of the Ubuntu
>         project,
>         > which is not the case and is therefore misleading.  We
>         certainly
>         > encourage people to make custom versions of Ubuntu, and we
>         have
>         > established the "remix" concept and terminology to allow use
>         of the
>         > trademark if the changes are minimal or include only
>         software from the
>         > Ubuntu repositories.
>         >
>         > We also do not allow the use of Ubuntu in a url as again
>         this implies
>         > an
>         > official link to the Ubuntu project which is misleading. In
>         this case
>         > there is an obvious clash with our own UME, which is
>         confusing.
>         >
>         > Again, I'd like to stress that we appreciate your enthusiasm
>         for
>         > Ubuntu,
>         > and that the basic activities of what you are doing is fine
>         - it's one
>         > of the freedoms and powers provided by open source
>         software.  But I'm
>         > afraid that using the Ubuntu name and logo (in product name,
>         on
>         > website,
>         > etc) to refer to your own product/project simply doesn't
>         work and
>         > needs
>         > to be changed.
>         >
>         > Please let me know if you have any questions.
>         >
>         > Kind regards,
>         >
>         >
>         > Michelle
>         >
>         > --
>         > Kind regards
>         >
>         > Michelle Surtees-Myers
>         > Canonical UK Ltd
>         > Tel: +44 207 630 2474   Fax: +44 207 630 2401
>         >
>         > Ubuntu - Linux for human beings
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > --
>         > Kind regards
>         >
>         > Michelle Surtees-Myers
>         > Canonical UK Ltd
>         > Tel: +44 207 630 2474   Fax: +44 207 630 2401
>         >
>         > Ubuntu - Linux for human beings
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > ----- End forwarded message -----
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >         2009/3/16 Abdelmonam Kouka
>         <abdelmonam.kouka at gmail.com>:
>         >
 <         <        > السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته،
>         >         >
>         >         > (English version is below, forward the information
>         please)
>         >         >
 <         <        > منذ أكثر من شهر ونصف (تحديدا في 21 جانفي 2009)
 <         <        أرسلت Canonical رسالة email
 <         <        > إلى فريق النسخة الإسلامية لأوبونتو تطلب فيها تغيير
 <        اسم
 <         <        التوزيعة واسم النطاق
 <         <        > لأنها تتعارض مع سياسة العلامات التجارية التي
 <        وضعتها:
>         >         >
>         >         > “We've tried to define a reasonable trademark
>         policy that
>         >         allows people to
>         >         > customise Ubuntu, and
>         >         >
>         >         > use the marks to promote the project, while at the
>         same
>         >         preserving the
>         >         > integrity of the marks.”
>         >         >
 <         <        > عندها قام الفريق باتخاذ الخطوات التالية:
>         >         >
 <         <        > 1) تبادل الأفكار ، والبحث عن الأسماء التي لم يسبق
 <        استخدامها
>         >         >
 <         <        > 2) التصويت
>         >         >
 <         <        > وبعد اختيار التسمية الجديدة انطلقت المرحلة
 <        الثالثة:
>         >         >
 <         <        > 3) العمل على تحديث جميع النصوص والصور
>         >         >
 <         <        > و الآن، يسرّ فريق النسخة الإسلامية لأوبونتو أن
 <        يعلن لكم على
 <         <        بركة الله الإسم
 <         <        > الجديد للتوزيعة ألا وهو: "سبيلي". وسيكون الشعار
 <        الجديد:
>         >         >
 <         <        > (قل هذه سبيلي أدعو إلى الله على بصيرة أنا ومن
 <        اتبعني)
>         >         >
 <         <        > -وهو الجزء الأول من الآية 108 من سورة يوسف-
>         >         >
 <         <        > نرجو من كافة الأخوة والأخوات تمرير المعلومة، كما
 <        نرجو من كل
 <         <        من يرى في نفسه
 <         <        > القدرة على مد يد المساعدة في التطوير (تطوير
 <        البرامج
 <         <        الإسلامية أو تصميمات
 <         <        > الجرافيكس)، أو من له أفكار جديدة للتوزيعة أن لا
 <        يتردد في
 <         <        الإتصال بنا عن
 <         <        > طريق:
>         >         >
 <         <        > * المجموعة البريدية للمساعدة التقنية الخاصة
 <        بالمشروع:
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntume?hl=en&pli=1
>         >         >
 <         <        > * المجموعة البريدية الخاصة بالتطوير:
>         >         >
>         >         > https://launchpad.net/sabily
>         >         >
 <         <        > لمزيد من المعلومات حول المشروع الرجاء زيارة موقع
 <        الواب الخاص
 <         <        به:
>         >         >
>         >         > http://www.ubuntume.com/
>         >         >
>         >         > Assalamo alaykom wa rahmato Allah wa baraketoh,
>         >         >
>         >         > For more than a month and a half (specifically, on
>         21
>         >         January 2009)
>         >         > Canonical sent an email to the Ubuntu Muslim
>         Edition team
>         >         requesting to
>         >         > change the project name and the URL of the web
>         site because
>         >         they are
>         >         > inconsistent with its trademark policy:
>         >         > “We've tried to define a reasonable trademark
>         policy that
>         >         allows people to
>         >         > customise Ubuntu, and
>         >         > use the marks to promote the project, while at the
>         same
>         >         preserving the
>         >         > integrity of the marks.”
>         >         >
>         >         > So, the team took the following steps:
>         >         > 1) brainstorming, finding names which are not
>         already used
>         >         > 2) voting
>         >         > And after the selection of the new name, launched
>         the third
>         >         phase:
>         >         >
>         >         > 3) working on updating all text and pictures
>         >         >
>         >         > And now, the Ubuntu Muslim Edition team is pleased
>         to
>         >         announce the new name
>         >         > of the distro:
>         >         >
 <         <        > "سبيلي" == "my way."
>         >         >
>         >         > The new slogan will be:
>         >         >
 <         <        > (قل هذه سبيلي أدعو إلى الله على بصيرة أنا ومن
 <        اتبعني)
>         >         >
>         >         > which means "This is my way; I invite unto Allah
>         with sure
>         >         knowledge, I and
>         >         > whosoever follows me..."
>         >         > -It is the first part of the verse 108 from Surat
>         Yusuf-
>         >         >
>         >         > We ask all brothers and sisters to forward this
>         information,
>         >         and we hope to
>         >         > receive your help in the development of the
>         project (the
>         >         development of
>         >         > Islamic software and/or graphics design), or by
>         giving new
>         >         ideas for the
>         >         > distro. Please don't hesitate to contact us via:
>         >         > * Technical support mailing list for the project:
>         >         >
>         http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntume?hl=en&pli=1
>         >         > * Development mailing list:
>         >         > https://launchpad.net/sabily
>         >         >
>         >         > For more information about the project please
>         visit the Web
>         >         site:
>         >         >
>         >         > http://www.ubuntume.com/
>         >         >
>         >
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