'apt-get install sugar-platform' available for Ubuntu9.10.

David Farning dfarning at sugarlabs.org
Tue Oct 27 05:10:25 GMT 2009

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Grant Bowman <grantbow at gmail.com> wrote:
> It works!
> There are alot of OLPC advocates that have been holding their breath
> for a well-packaged version of Sugar to run on our machines!  Thank
> you!  I'm one of the California LoCo folks near San Francisco and
> attend the SF-OLPC put on monthly by Sameer Verma.  I'm an Ubuntu
> Member but not part of the MOTU.  For a brief while I was a Debian
> Developer so I may be able to help a bit.  I've also done QA
> professionally for several different companies.  I'm sure we'll be
> able to get someone to help out with sponsorship if they aren't
> already subscribed to this list and lurking.

Ok great.  I personally have a lot of learning so I am not in much of a hurry.

> How do you recommend people update their applications? turtle art,
> pippy and jukebox all say that updates are available when I run the
> update from inside of xephyr but I chose not to download and install
> them that way, waiting to hear back from you first.

It is fine to use the internal sugar updater to update activities.
There is an abstraction barrier between the distro dependant stuff and
most of the activities. (etoys is one of exceptions) Nothing on
Activities.sl.o (which is what is available through the updater)
touched the distro layer.

> Is this the best keyboard cheat sheet?
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Keyboard_shortcuts
> Oh, you address this in the source README but was this file installed
> via  binary package somewhere?  It might be good to install it once
> and link to it from a few of the other packages.  They keyboard
> shortcuts are important to to end users.

I think we should focus as much of our enduser documentation efforts
as possible on the olpc/sugar manuals at http://en.flossmanuals.net/ .
 We can ship them as preloaded content.

> I had 0.83.8 installed before but it wasn't working at all - could
> that have been related to my previous trouble?  I uninstalled it
> before installing your 0.86.2-1 on my machine.

Yes there were some dependencies issues.  Sugar got a bit ahead of the
rest of the world with its versions of abiword and xulrunner.  The
xulrunner issues looks fixed and we are shipping a newer version of
abiword then is available in 9.10

> What are your plans for including documentation? Specifically in
> /usr/share/doc/sugar*

I am planning on going though the pagers Morgan and Jonas have made
and crib the stuff that looks useful.

> Does xephyr change the keyboard mapping?  My alt-tab doesn't work all
> of a sudden, though it might be unrelated.

My alt-tab stopped working a while ago.  I don't think it is sugar related.

> The garbage that comes when running sugar-emulator doesn't seem
> harmful but it might scare people - any thoughts?

My guess is that many of the warning should be filed upstream.

> Grant Bowman
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 6:24 PM, David Farning <dfarning at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Grant Bowman <grantbow at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello David!
>>> Thank you very much for your efforts!  I can't tell you how happy I am
>>> to see that sugar is almost ready for Karmic!
>> You are welcome.  It was more fun than I expected.
>>> These packages need to get into the archives pretty soon so bugs can
>>> be filed against the packages, but it's not ready yet.  I tried to do
>>> ubuntu-bug sugar-base but ppa versions don't work with ubuntu-bug it
>>> seems.
>> I wish I had good new for you on this.  But I am afraid that first I
>> need to learn the CDBS patching method, learn Ubuntu packaging policy,
>> and then find a sponsor  and become a MOTU.
>>> Unpacking sugar-base (from .../sugar-base_1%3a0.86.0-1~ppa2_i386.deb) ...
>>> dpkg: error processing
>>> /var/cache/apt/archives/sugar-base_1%3a0.86.0-1~ppa2_i386.deb
>>> (--unpack):
>>>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/pyshared/sugar/logger.py', which is
>>> also in package python-sugar 0:0.83.4-0ubuntu1
>> Thanks for the bug report.  I have uploaded a patched version to launchpad.
>> david
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