Where are we heading?

[Morgan Collett]

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 00:01,  <simon at mungewell.org> wrote:
> As (probably) the newest team member I am trying to get up to speed with
> what/when/how Sugar overlaps with Ubuntu.
>
> As I understand it.....
>
> At present we have 0.82 Sugar, but 0.83 (to be 0.84) is well underway and
> is significantly different in some areas.

Yes. Fortunately Sugar has decided, more or less, on a six month
release cycle (and so has OLPC) and the dates are a bit in advance of
the Ubuntu releases.

So the long term plan is to always have the latest stable release in
the latest Ubuntu release.

> My understanding is that all of the XO/Sugar developers are busy getting
> ready for XO Camp next week (Nov 17) and by the end of the week a lot more
> things will be set in stone for the next release of Sugar.

It was going to be an OLPC-focused event, but OLPC's attention is on
the Give 1 Get 1 program launching on Monday, so instead it's been
changed to a Sugar-focused event: http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugarcamp
since Sugar people were going to be there anyway. Further planning is
still going to happen at XO Camp which will be early in January -
although after the feature freeze for Sugar so that will mainly be
planning for future Sugar development cycles.

> There is already a road map here:
> http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Release/Roadmap
>
> There is also a Ubuntu 9.04 road map here:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule
>
>
> With the Sugar 'feature freeze' (Dec21) just before Ubuntu 'Debian import
> freeze' (Dec25). Is this really that strict?

As I understand it, that's the freeze on imports done without
approval. Imports can still be approved after that date if they have a
motivation. The next significant date is the Jaunty Feature Freeze on
19 Feb, after which updates to packages shouldn't include new
features, only bug fixes (unless you get a Feature Freeze Exception
which we successfully got for Intrepid as we still didn't have the
debian packages synced...)

In the mean time, we will try and fix the issues we know about in
Intrepid, which AFAIK involves sending our existing patches to debian
(if not upstream), fixing in Jaunty and then proposing a patch for
Intrepid and asking for Stable Release Update approval.

Regards
Morgan