[ubuntu-studio-users] XFCE4 vs Ubuntu Studio 22.04

Sat Apr 29 22:40:24 UTC 2023

What on Earth is going on in this thread? Have any of you been paying 
attention to <https://ubuntustudio.org/news> for the past 3 years?????

We have a quick an easy solution to this! If you don't want KDE's 
Plasma Desktop, there's a very simple solution.

1) Install Xubuntu (for the Xfce Desktop)
2) Install ubuntustudio-installer
3) Install what you need for Ubuntu Studio using Ubuntu Studio 
Installer!

This is all outlined on 
<https://ubuntustudio.org/ubuntu-studio-installer/> and linked to from 
the front page of https://ubuntustudio.org <https://ubuntustudio.org/>! 
There's no need to go through all of the stuff you're going through!

I don't know why, for the life of me, people don't simply check the 
website where they got the software to begin with to see if maybe, just 
*maybe* there's a simple solution!

I have been working on making Ubuntu Studio simpler for *everyone* for 
the past 5 years and this is what I see? People not paying attention? 
People not looking for the simple solution but rather looking for the 
most convoluted way to do somethign when the answer is in front of 
their faces all along? I simply don't get it!

*throws hands in the air*

You're welcome!
--
Erich Eickmeyer
Project Leader - Ubuntu Studio
Technical Lead - Edubuntu

On Fri, Apr 28 2023 at 09:26:47 PM -05:00:00, Jon <jonr at destar.net> 
wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon <jonr at destar.net <mailto:jonr at destar.net>>
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> Users
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> To: ""James Harkins"" <jamshark70 at zoho.com 
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> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] XFCE4 vs Ubuntu Studio 22.04
> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2023 21:23:24 -0500
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ""James Harkins"" <jamshark70 at zoho.com 
> <mailto:jamshark70 at zoho.com>>
> To: jonr <jonr at destar.net <mailto:jonr at destar.net>>, 
> ubuntu-studio-users
> <ubuntu-studio-users at lists.ubuntu.com 
> <mailto:ubuntu-studio-users at lists.ubuntu.com>>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] XFCE4 vs Ubuntu Studio 22.04
> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 09:13:06 +0800
> 
> ---- On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 23:41:42 +0800  Jon  wrote ---
>>  Just wanted to know if you have tried installing XFCE as your window
>>  manager or is there something that KDE plasma has that you require?
> 
> Plasma doesn't have anything specific I need. (This is actually part 
> of
> my reason for posting -- in case Ubuntu Studio maintainers are
> listening, this user is offering some feedback that Plasma has
> decidedly not been an improvement.)
> 
> Online, I see
> https://www.tecmint.com/install-xfce-desktop-in-ubuntu-fedora ("sudo 
> <https://www.tecmint.com/install-xfce-desktop-in-ubuntu-fedora%C2%A0(>
> apt install xfce4") -- but, when I asked about this initially, the
> advice on this list was to "install Xubuntu then use the Ubuntu Studio
> Installer to change it."
> 
> So... is there a particular disadvantage installing the XFCE packages
> over my current installation? A fresh install + all my software is at
> least a half day (which I had to do recently, after trying Ubuntu
> Studio 22.10 and then having to reinstall 22.04, oops, so I know how
> long it takes).
> 
> hjh
> 
> Well, it's hard to give any recommendations when you don't know the
> users skill level to revover from errors. I don't believe XFCE would
> overwrite anything, it should install and give you the opportunity to
> login to the XFCE desktop from the login screen. I would think it 
> would
> be as simple as:
> 
> apt update && apt upgrade
> apt install xfce4 xfce4-goodies
> reboot
> 
> Also, I am not hearing others have the same issues as you are, not
> saying they are not, just not hearing it. So that leads me to think it
> may be a hardware issue, i.e. a driver that is not playing nice. If 
> you
> are leery of going the XFCE route, update all drivers from the
> manufactuers website, hopefully they have Linux drivers.
> 
> You could also try and troubleshoot if you have another computer or
> laptop on the network. When it freezes again, see if you can log in
> through ssh and check dmesg and the logs to see if you can find the
> cuplprit. Do you have any scripts running that you setup and forgot
> about, possibly sitting in cron, does the issue happen randomly or do
> you notice after say 23 minutes and 6 seconds it happens?
> 
> Just some things to look at while you decide what to do, others may
> have better ideas to help troubleshoot, but I usually solve 95% of my
> issues at that starting point.
> 
> Regardless of th linux OS I use, I always install XFCE. I don't want 
> to
> waste resources on pretty colors or bouncing windows. I want all
> resources for Audio/Video/Graphics applications.
> 
> HtH,
> 
> Jon
> 
> Always wisdom in the 'Enter' key and the 'Send' button.
> 
> Better idea, setup KVM or some other virtualization system and install
> Ubuntu 22.04, then go to town. If you wreck it, start over, no harm
> done. Then you have an environment to test all you want without ever
> touching your workstation
> 
> 
> 
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