[ubuntu-studio-users] ubuntu-studio-users Digest, Vol 100, Issue 7

Thu Aug 13 18:09:33 UTC 2015

Bart -

You get it to start if you have not used audio?  Are you running pulseaudio?
Pulseaudio sometimes gets confused if you have only one card and
pulseaudio has grabbed it, and won't give it to jack.

Ted

On 8/13/2015 12:24 PM, ubuntu-studio-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote:
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> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 17:46:05 +0200
> From: bart deruyter <bart.deruyter at gmail.com>
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> Hi all,
>
> as an idea to get jackdbus stopping and then startup again I used as
> Edward Schrober suggested :
>
> sudo kill -9 4327 (the number is the pid of jackdbus)
>
> but to no avail, jack won't start again. Now I'm on xfce, default for
> ubuntustudio. So it is not gnome related, but a more general configuration
> issue I think.
>
> grtz,
>
> Bart
>
>
> http://www.bartart3d.be/
> On Twitter <https://twitter.com/#%21/Bart_Issimo>
> On Identi.ca <http://identi.ca/bartart3d>
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>
> 2015-08-13 9:00 GMT+02:00 bart deruyter <bart.deruyter at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm running ubuntu 15.04 now, gnome variant, with ubuntustudio and
>> kxstudio installed through software sources.
>>
>> My soundcard is an Echo Audiofire 12, connected with firewire.
>>
>> Since 15.04 when I start jack it works fine as long as I don't run any
>> other application which requires sound, before starting jack.
>>
>> it is consistently going wrong when I for example start chrome, exit
>> chrome and try to start jack, using claudia, or qjackctl, or commandline.
>> the message qjackctl throws is: JackServer::Open failed with -1
>>
>> When I log out of the system, then log in again (no reboot required) it
>> works again, as long as I start jack first.
>>
>> Also, when I use chrome while running jack things seem to keep working,
>> though I have ben thrown out of jack too.
>>
>> - I checked if I was in audio-group, which I am, otherwise it wouldn't
>> work at all.
>> - I turned autospawn off for pulseaudio and killed pulseaudio befor
>> starting jack
>> - tried out various settings in qjackctl.
>>
>> None seem to have helped.
>>
>> How can I trace the source of the problem? If it is a known issue, anyone
>> idea's on how to fix this?
>>
>> grtz,
>>
>> Bart
>>
>> http://www.bartart3d.be/
>> On Twitter <https://twitter.com/#%21/Bart_Issimo>
>> On Identi.ca <http://identi.ca/bartart3d>
>> On Google+ <https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/116379400376517483499/>
>>
>
> http://www.bartart3d.be/
> On Twitter <https://twitter.com/#%21/Bart_Issimo>
> On Identi.ca <http://identi.ca/bartart3d>
> On Google+ <https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/116379400376517483499/>
>
> 2015-08-13 9:00 GMT+02:00 bart deruyter <bart.deruyter at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm running ubuntu 15.04 now, gnome variant, with ubuntustudio and
>> kxstudio installed through software sources.
>>
>> My soundcard is an Echo Audiofire 12, connected with firewire.
>>
>> Since 15.04 when I start jack it works fine as long as I don't run any
>> other application which requires sound, before starting jack.
>>
>> it is consistently going wrong when I for example start chrome, exit
>> chrome and try to start jack, using claudia, or qjackctl, or commandline.
>> the message qjackctl throws is: JackServer::Open failed with -1
>>
>> When I log out of the system, then log in again (no reboot required) it
>> works again, as long as I start jack first.
>>
>> Also, when I use chrome while running jack things seem to keep working,
>> though I have ben thrown out of jack too.
>>
>> - I checked if I was in audio-group, which I am, otherwise it wouldn't
>> work at all.
>> - I turned autospawn off for pulseaudio and killed pulseaudio befor
>> starting jack
>> - tried out various settings in qjackctl.
>>
>> None seem to have helped.
>>
>> How can I trace the source of the problem? If it is a known issue, anyone
>> idea's on how to fix this?
>>
>> grtz,
>>
>> Bart
>>
>> http://www.bartart3d.be/
>> On Twitter <https://twitter.com/#%21/Bart_Issimo>
>> On Identi.ca <http://identi.ca/bartart3d>
>> On Google+ <https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/116379400376517483499/>
>>
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> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 18:01:06 +0200
> From: bart deruyter <bart.deruyter at gmail.com>
> To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion
> 	<ubuntu-studio-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] weird behaviour firewire
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> Turning back to the original thread I started:
>
> @ Mike Holstein:
>
> my mistake I set the examples in the wrong order, usually I do first exit
> jack, don't hammer on it.* It is not the biggest issue.* Any way it
> happens, exiting jack and trying to start it again, even when I keep the
> device on, I don't get jack working anymore.
>
> And it's not my first day using ubuntustudio, I'm not a beginner, using it
> sort of hapily for 7 years now, so I do have some experience. Until now I
> never had any problem with exiting jack to start it again later on.
> Secondly I do use the internet to communicate too, not just to browse
> around a little, talking to other people who make music, browsing for
> samples, etc...
>
> I do not intend to invest in a second machine and I do expect my computer
> to handle audio work and some simple tasks as typing a letter of browsing
> the internet. I simply don't have the funds for it and I don't want to
> scale the philosophy of "for each task a different program" up to "for each
> task a different computer".
>
> greetz,
>
> Bart
>
> http://www.bartart3d.be/
> On Twitter <https://twitter.com/#%21/Bart_Issimo>
> On Identi.ca <http://identi.ca/bartart3d>
> On Google+ <https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/116379400376517483499/>
>
> 2015-08-13 17:46 GMT+02:00 bart deruyter <bart.deruyter at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> as an idea to get jackdbus stopping and then startup again I used as
>> Edward Schrober suggested :
>>
>> sudo kill -9 4327 (the number is the pid of jackdbus)
>>
>> but to no avail, jack won't start again. Now I'm on xfce, default for
>> ubuntustudio. So it is not gnome related, but a more general configuration
>> issue I think.
>>
>> grtz,
>>
>> Bart
>>
>>
>> http://www.bartart3d.be/
>> On Twitter <https://twitter.com/#%21/Bart_Issimo>
>> On Identi.ca <http://identi.ca/bartart3d>
>> On Google+ <https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/116379400376517483499/>
>>
>> 2015-08-13 9:00 GMT+02:00 bart deruyter <bart.deruyter at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm running ubuntu 15.04 now, gnome variant, with ubuntustudio and
>>> kxstudio installed through software sources.
>>>
>>> My soundcard is an Echo Audiofire 12, connected with firewire.
>>>
>>> Since 15.04 when I start jack it works fine as long as I don't run any
>>> other application which requires sound, before starting jack.
>>>
>>> it is consistently going wrong when I for example start chrome, exit
>>> chrome and try to start jack, using claudia, or qjackctl, or commandline.
>>> the message qjackctl throws is: JackServer::Open failed with -1
>>>
>>> When I log out of the system, then log in again (no reboot required) it
>>> works again, as long as I start jack first.
>>>
>>> Also, when I use chrome while running jack things seem to keep working,
>>> though I have ben thrown out of jack too.
>>>
>>> - I checked if I was in audio-group, which I am, otherwise it wouldn't
>>> work at all.
>>> - I turned autospawn off for pulseaudio and killed pulseaudio befor
>>> starting jack
>>> - tried out various settings in qjackctl.
>>>
>>> None seem to have helped.
>>>
>>> How can I trace the source of the problem? If it is a known issue, anyone
>>> idea's on how to fix this?
>>>
>>> grtz,
>>>
>>> Bart
>>>
>>> http://www.bartart3d.be/
>>> On Twitter <https://twitter.com/#%21/Bart_Issimo>
>>> On Identi.ca <http://identi.ca/bartart3d>
>>> On Google+ <https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/116379400376517483499/>
>>>
>>
>> http://www.bartart3d.be/
>> On Twitter <https://twitter.com/#%21/Bart_Issimo>
>> On Identi.ca <http://identi.ca/bartart3d>
>> On Google+ <https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/116379400376517483499/>
>>
>> 2015-08-13 9:00 GMT+02:00 bart deruyter <bart.deruyter at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm running ubuntu 15.04 now, gnome variant, with ubuntustudio and
>>> kxstudio installed through software sources.
>>>
>>> My soundcard is an Echo Audiofire 12, connected with firewire.
>>>
>>> Since 15.04 when I start jack it works fine as long as I don't run any
>>> other application which requires sound, before starting jack.
>>>
>>> it is consistently going wrong when I for example start chrome, exit
>>> chrome and try to start jack, using claudia, or qjackctl, or commandline.
>>> the message qjackctl throws is: JackServer::Open failed with -1
>>>
>>> When I log out of the system, then log in again (no reboot required) it
>>> works again, as long as I start jack first.
>>>
>>> Also, when I use chrome while running jack things seem to keep working,
>>> though I have ben thrown out of jack too.
>>>
>>> - I checked if I was in audio-group, which I am, otherwise it wouldn't
>>> work at all.
>>> - I turned autospawn off for pulseaudio and killed pulseaudio befor
>>> starting jack
>>> - tried out various settings in qjackctl.
>>>
>>> None seem to have helped.
>>>
>>> How can I trace the source of the problem? If it is a known issue, anyone
>>> idea's on how to fix this?
>>>
>>> grtz,
>>>
>>> Bart
>>>
>>> http://www.bartart3d.be/
>>> On Twitter <https://twitter.com/#%21/Bart_Issimo>
>>> On Identi.ca <http://identi.ca/bartart3d>
>>> On Google+ <https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/116379400376517483499/>
>>>
>>
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> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 12:23:58 -0400
> From: Mike Holstein <mikeh789 at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] weird behaviour firewire
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> On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 12:01 PM, bart deruyter <bart.deruyter at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Turning back to the original thread I started:
>>
>> @ Mike Holstein:
>>
>> my mistake I set the examples in the wrong order, usually I do first exit
>> jack, don't hammer on it.* It is not the biggest issue.* Any way it
>> happens, exiting jack and trying to start it again, even when I keep the
>> device on, I don't get jack working anymore.
>>
>> And it's not my first day using ubuntustudio, I'm not a beginner, using it
>> sort of hapily for 7 years now, so I do have some experience. Until now I
>> never had any problem with exiting jack to start it again later on.
>> Secondly I do use the internet to communicate too, not just to browse
>> around a little, talking to other people who make music, browsing for
>> samples, etc...
>>
>> I do not intend to invest in a second machine and I do expect my computer
>> to handle audio work and some simple tasks as typing a letter of browsing
>> the internet. I simply don't have the funds for it and I don't want to
>> scale the philosophy of "for each task a different program" up to "for each
>> task a different computer".
>>
>> greetz,
>>
>>
> at this point, for me, personally, i would go forward. i would test in
> 15.10, and see if it works there. file a bug, or join a bug, and move on..
> otherwise, im not talking about a requiring a physical machine per task. im
> just suggesting, potentially having a different installation on the same
> machine, where, one is catering to desktop use, and the other is catering
> to audio production. not that this is a key factor. no doubt, it *should*
> ideally be working to do what you are wanting to do. but, i find, dealing
> with firewire to be especially challenging.
>
> cheers, and good luck!
>
>
>
>
>> Bart
>>
>> http://www.bartart3d.be/
>> On Twitter <https://twitter.com/#%21/Bart_Issimo>
>> On Identi.ca <http://identi.ca/bartart3d>
>> On Google+ <https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/116379400376517483499/>
>>
>> 2015-08-13 17:46 GMT+02:00 bart deruyter <bart.deruyter at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> as an idea to get jackdbus stopping and then startup again I used as
>>> Edward Schrober suggested :
>>>
>>> sudo kill -9 4327 (the number is the pid of jackdbus)
>>>
>>> but to no avail, jack won't start again. Now I'm on xfce, default for
>>> ubuntustudio. So it is not gnome related, but a more general configuration
>>> issue I think.
>>>
>>> grtz,
>>>
>>> Bart
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.bartart3d.be/
>>> On Twitter <https://twitter.com/#%21/Bart_Issimo>
>>> On Identi.ca <http://identi.ca/bartart3d>
>>> On Google+ <https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/116379400376517483499/>
>>>
>>> 2015-08-13 9:00 GMT+02:00 bart deruyter <bart.deruyter at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm running ubuntu 15.04 now, gnome variant, with ubuntustudio and
>>>> kxstudio installed through software sources.
>>>>
>>>> My soundcard is an Echo Audiofire 12, connected with firewire.
>>>>
>>>> Since 15.04 when I start jack it works fine as long as I don't run any
>>>> other application which requires sound, before starting jack.
>>>>
>>>> it is consistently going wrong when I for example start chrome, exit
>>>> chrome and try to start jack, using claudia, or qjackctl, or commandline.
>>>> the message qjackctl throws is: JackServer::Open failed with -1
>>>>
>>>> When I log out of the system, then log in again (no reboot required) it
>>>> works again, as long as I start jack first.
>>>>
>>>> Also, when I use chrome while running jack things seem to keep working,
>>>> though I have ben thrown out of jack too.
>>>>
>>>> - I checked if I was in audio-group, which I am, otherwise it wouldn't
>>>> work at all.
>>>> - I turned autospawn off for pulseaudio and killed pulseaudio befor
>>>> starting jack
>>>> - tried out various settings in qjackctl.
>>>>
>>>> None seem to have helped.
>>>>
>>>> How can I trace the source of the problem? If it is a known issue,
>>>> anyone idea's on how to fix this?
>>>>
>>>> grtz,
>>>>
>>>> Bart
>>>>
>>>> http://www.bartart3d.be/
>>>> On Twitter <https://twitter.com/#%21/Bart_Issimo>
>>>> On Identi.ca <http://identi.ca/bartart3d>
>>>> On Google+ <https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/116379400376517483499/>
>>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.bartart3d.be/
>>> On Twitter <https://twitter.com/#%21/Bart_Issimo>
>>> On Identi.ca <http://identi.ca/bartart3d>
>>> On Google+ <https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/116379400376517483499/>
>>>
>>> 2015-08-13 9:00 GMT+02:00 bart deruyter <bart.deruyter at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm running ubuntu 15.04 now, gnome variant, with ubuntustudio and
>>>> kxstudio installed through software sources.
>>>>
>>>> My soundcard is an Echo Audiofire 12, connected with firewire.
>>>>
>>>> Since 15.04 when I start jack it works fine as long as I don't run any
>>>> other application which requires sound, before starting jack.
>>>>
>>>> it is consistently going wrong when I for example start chrome, exit
>>>> chrome and try to start jack, using claudia, or qjackctl, or commandline.
>>>> the message qjackctl throws is: JackServer::Open failed with -1
>>>>
>>>> When I log out of the system, then log in again (no reboot required) it
>>>> works again, as long as I start jack first.
>>>>
>>>> Also, when I use chrome while running jack things seem to keep working,
>>>> though I have ben thrown out of jack too.
>>>>
>>>> - I checked if I was in audio-group, which I am, otherwise it wouldn't
>>>> work at all.
>>>> - I turned autospawn off for pulseaudio and killed pulseaudio befor
>>>> starting jack
>>>> - tried out various settings in qjackctl.
>>>>
>>>> None seem to have helped.
>>>>
>>>> How can I trace the source of the problem? If it is a known issue,
>>>> anyone idea's on how to fix this?
>>>>
>>>> grtz,
>>>>
>>>> Bart
>>>>
>>>> http://www.bartart3d.be/
>>>> On Twitter <https://twitter.com/#%21/Bart_Issimo>
>>>> On Identi.ca <http://identi.ca/bartart3d>
>>>> On Google+ <https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/116379400376517483499/>
>>>>
>>>
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