[ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio and Mate

[Victor]

I was in a similar situation and finally I replaced XFCE with
gnome-fallback & compiz. I had some configuration difficulties with themes
(are changed in dconf editor), but now I'm very happy with this setting!!


2013/8/17 Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net>

>
> On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 01:47 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 2013-08-16 at 19:18 -0400, Mike Holstein wrote:
> > > mate is not in the repos, thus, not officially supported. nothing
> > > about ubuntustudio should prevent you from using mate if you want. i
> > > would refer to documentation for adding/using mate in ubuntu, since
> > > ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu.. and let us know how it goes.. should be
> > > fine, and totally unsupported.. as a potentially relevant side-note,
> > > cinnamon is in the repos..
> >
> > For Arch it's also not in the official repos, but Cinnamon is in Archs
> > official repos too and doesn't force to install problematic dependencies
> > and also it won't remove file-roller. Perhaps I'll install it to my Arch
> > and Ubuntu Studio to test it.
>
> Cinnamon
>
> I was mistaken. Arch does provide the gnome-settings-daemon-nopulse and
> nemo, with a hard dependency to gvfs, is an optional dependency for
> Cinnamon, so I guess for Ubuntu there will be at least a hard dependency
> to pulseaudio.
>
> The default look is ugly and I didn't find settings that makes it look
> less ugly. IMO for users who want to use it for graphic a PITA, but it
> might be more configurable, than I'm aware at the moment. However, there
> are serious issue, they forgot to write a good 3D graphics driver for my
> ATI card, the performance is bad. I wonder if it's impossible to enlarge
> some fonts, or if there are different places, where the user needs to
> chose the font sizes. Even to use the lock screen button they force the
> user to install an optional dependency to some screen thingy, instead of
> allowing to use the lightweight lock screen package I've got already
> installed.
>
> With Suse 11.2 I still use GNOME 2, GNOME 2 and Xfce4 are very similar,
> Cinnamon has absolutely nothing in common with GNOME 2.
>
> I won't remove it and try to get rid of all that 3D crap and odd
> gimmicks and perhaps it's possible to make all fonts readable, but I
> won't install it to Ubuntu Studio too or use it on Arch to make music or
> graphic work.
>
> cinnamon 1.8.8-4
> gnome-settings-daemon-nopulse 3.8.3-1
>
> It's disgusting. IMO the only usable DE from all the bloated new DEs is
> KDE 4, I'm using Xfce only, but IMO LXDE is ok too.
>
> The 3D version needs 6 to 15 % CPU when Evolution is opened and
> Xfce4-terminal is opened and I only move the mouse and it needs 9.5% of
> the 3.5 GiB available memory. This is ridiculous.
>
> When using the "software rendering" the Windows perform better, but
> writing is to slow. When idle it needs 16, but usually 30% up to > 90%
> of a dual-core 2.1 GHz CPU.
>
> In software rendering mode it's completely unusable, while for the
> normal mode it does perform very bad and might be usable.
>
> Regards,
> Ralf
>
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