<div dir="ltr">I was in a similar situation and finally I replaced XFCE with gnome-fallback & compiz. I had some configuration difficulties with themes (are changed in dconf editor), but now I'm very happy with this setting!! </div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">2013/8/17 Ralf Mardorf <<a href="mailto:ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net" target="_blank">ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net</a>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div class="im"> On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 01:47 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Fri, 2013-08-16 at 19:18 -0400, Mike Holstein wrote: > > mate is not in the repos, thus, not officially supported. nothing > > about ubuntustudio should prevent you from using mate if you want. i > > would refer to documentation for adding/using mate in ubuntu, since > > ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu.. and let us know how it goes.. should be > > fine, and totally unsupported.. as a potentially relevant side-note, > > cinnamon is in the repos.. > > For Arch it's also not in the official repos, but Cinnamon is in Archs > official repos too and doesn't force to install problematic dependencies > and also it won't remove file-roller. Perhaps I'll install it to my Arch > and Ubuntu Studio to test it. </div>Cinnamon I was mistaken. Arch does provide the gnome-settings-daemon-nopulse and nemo, with a hard dependency to gvfs, is an optional dependency for Cinnamon, so I guess for Ubuntu there will be at least a hard dependency to pulseaudio. The default look is ugly and I didn't find settings that makes it look less ugly. IMO for users who want to use it for graphic a PITA, but it might be more configurable, than I'm aware at the moment. However, there are serious issue, they forgot to write a good 3D graphics driver for my ATI card, the performance is bad. I wonder if it's impossible to enlarge some fonts, or if there are different places, where the user needs to chose the font sizes. Even to use the lock screen button they force the user to install an optional dependency to some screen thingy, instead of allowing to use the lightweight lock screen package I've got already installed. With Suse 11.2 I still use GNOME 2, GNOME 2 and Xfce4 are very similar, Cinnamon has absolutely nothing in common with GNOME 2. I won't remove it and try to get rid of all that 3D crap and odd gimmicks and perhaps it's possible to make all fonts readable, but I won't install it to Ubuntu Studio too or use it on Arch to make music or graphic work. cinnamon 1.8.8-4 gnome-settings-daemon-nopulse 3.8.3-1 It's disgusting. IMO the only usable DE from all the bloated new DEs is KDE 4, I'm using Xfce only, but IMO LXDE is ok too. The 3D version needs 6 to 15 % CPU when Evolution is opened and Xfce4-terminal is opened and I only move the mouse and it needs 9.5% of the 3.5 GiB available memory. This is ridiculous. When using the "software rendering" the Windows perform better, but writing is to slow. When idle it needs 16, but usually 30% up to > 90% of a dual-core 2.1 GHz CPU. In software rendering mode it's completely unusable, while for the normal mode it does perform very bad and might be usable. <div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"> Regards, Ralf -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users</a> </div></div></blockquote></div> </div>