Desktop change consequences
Andrew Huys
musiek.sparta.nc at gmail.com
Wed Apr 10 17:43:57 UTC 2013
yes, sudo is temporary. Usually the default for sudo timeout is 15
minutes. there is a way to set it for longer/shorter, but I don't
exactly remember how to accomplish it...
On 04/10/2013 01:35 PM, Pete Wright wrote:
> Thanks, Ben
> I do have 2.5 linux setups (don't have full-time access to the third,
> so 2.5).
> The rub is they are not identical hardware and do not behave the same
> with identical software, which I gave up trying to achieve.
> So I am now running Ubuntu 12.10 on one, Ubuntu Studio 12.10 on my
> main machine, and a hodge-podge mostly 12.04 on a mini laptop which is
> ethernetted into my main one..
> Am I correct that SUDO gives temporary super-user status (but not root)?
> I had what had to have been one of the rare few personally-owned Unix
> machines back in the early '80s, and am trying to dredge up and/or
> replace the old knowledge, after being mainly in the windows world
> from around 1984 until late last year..
> Bizarre, I admit.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Andrew Huys
> <musiek.sparta.nc at gmail.com <mailto:musiek.sparta.nc at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Beware of "sudo", it gives you godlike powers...
>
> the best advice I can give: If you have the resources, set up two
> computers, one of them being your stable production/work/school
> machine, the other being your experimental setup. Try the new
> commands on the experimental machine, in case they don't work out
> like you hope. Once you're comfortable with them, use them on the
> production machine.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Ben
> On 04/10/2013 10:07 AM, Pete Wright wrote:
>> Thanks, Andrew.
>> You and Alf are elevating my self-confidence to dangerous levels.
>> cheers
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Andrew Huys
>> <musiek.sparta.nc at gmail.com <mailto:musiek.sparta.nc at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> "I get something from the repository I do not have to use
>> synaptic to keep it up to date?" If you use update-manager
>> and have automatic updates turned on, no, you do not need to
>> use synaptic for anything.
>>
>> However, Synaptic is /very/ useful when you're searching for
>> packages to install and maybe don't know the names (if you
>> dislike the software-center). Synaptic is faster on my older
>> machines (IBM/Lenovo T43p, etc.) than software center, as it
>> does not have fancy graphics, ratings, reviews, etc. Also,
>> being able to install multiple items just by checking the
>> boxes and clicking [apply] seems easier to me than finding
>> each individual software in software center.
>>
>> As far as updating goes, I almost never use the
>> "update-manager" (had an issue with it at one time, don't
>> remember what, but stopped using it then), I find it easier
>> to do via command-line:
>>
>> sudo apt-get update
>> Sudo apt-get upgrade
>>
>> I run these about once a week (or whenever i remember) just
>> to keep on top of things.
>>
>> -AND Huys
>>
>>
>>
>> On 04/10/2013 09:46 AM, Pete Wright wrote:
>>> Thanks, Alf.
>>> So, to make sure I understand you, if I get something from
>>> the repository I do not have to use synaptic to keep it up
>>> to date?
>>> Is Synaptic still useful in any scenario, or is it
>>> completely irrelevant/obsolete?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Alf Haakon Lund
>>> <alf at mellomrommet.no <mailto:alf at mellomrommet.no>> wrote:
>>>
>>> No,
>>>
>>> Nothing updates in the background, the update manager
>>> will always ask. It just means updates are not taken
>>> care of by canonical's Ubuntu team and that they may (or
>>> may not) be provided by the community.
>>>
>>> Kind of the same way Microsoft provides updates for IE
>>> but not for Firefox, although the example is a bit
>>> flawed as Microsoft won't let you download software they
>>> don't own through their channels.
>>>
>>> But that's the wonder of open source! Actually the
>>> software repositories is one of my favorites with
>>> Ubuntu. Finding and installing programs is so simple and
>>> updates automatically taken care of (if there are any).
>>>
>>> Alf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10. april 2013 14:52, Pete Wright wrote:
>>>
>>> Really? Updating automatic? I knew Ubuntu updates
>>> automatically, but many
>>> items in the Software Centre say "Updates not
>>> provided by Ubuntu...may be
>>> provided by community" or something like that. Are
>>> these packages/programs
>>> automagically updating themselves in the background?
>>> Even the main Ubuntu
>>> thingy asks me before updating.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Alf Haakon Lund
>>> <alf at mellomrommet.no <mailto:alf at mellomrommet.no>>wrote:
>>>
>>> Not sure what you mean here (updates not
>>> included)? Unless it's become
>>> abandonware (no more in development), updating
>>> should be automatically
>>> taken care of.
>>>
>>> Anyway glad to hear it was what you looked for.
>>>
>>> Alf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09. april 2013 13:54, Pete Wright wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks again, Alf
>>> Synapse aboard and seems just the ticket.
>>> Also, after this morning's update, I find I
>>> am now able to put my own
>>> dubious artwork on the desktop.
>>> I see Synapse updates are not included in
>>> Ubuntu; will Synaptic do? I run
>>> it periodically.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Pete Wright
>>> <pnwright at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:pnwright at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Alf, I will try Synapse.
>>>
>>> And as to desktop pic, I think that is
>>> what I did and it didn't work.
>>> It's
>>> my computer, I think.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Alf
>>> Haakon Lund <alf at mellomrommet.no
>>> <mailto:alf at mellomrommet.no>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't use unity, so I might be off
>>> target. But "heads up search"
>>>
>>> sounds
>>> like what synapse is doing for me.
>>> It's a small app that finds anything,
>>> files or programs. Hit ctrl-space to
>>> launch, type a few letters (just f
>>> and
>>> first suggestion is firefox, first
>>> suggestion adapts to what is most
>>> used).
>>> Navigate through suggestions with
>>> arrows.
>>>
>>> Synapse is available in software
>>> center and synaptic.
>>>
>>> As for changing desktop image, for
>>> me right-click on the desktop and
>>> choosing desktop settings gets me
>>> there. Or [ctrl-space], [de] and first
>>> suggestion is desktop settings.
>>>
>>> Good luck on ubuntu studio, and
>>> never be afraid to ask!
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> Alf
>>>
>>>
>>
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