Ubuntu-Studio-users Digest, Vol 65, Issue 19

Mike Holstein mikeh789 at gmail.com
Sun Sep 23 20:26:10 UTC 2012


Good is a matter of opinion... I would literally load up all/any
environment and see what you think of them. You can use all/any of them
with the ubuntustudio software without any issues... there's a nice light
one called razor-qt.. I use openbox... load them up and check them out...
On Sep 23, 2012 3:53 PM, "Azarel Howard" <azariah001 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I stand correct on the Gnome thing. :P I did a little research after I
> posted that and found out it's XFCE :P Looks pretty much the same as gnome2
> except for the launcher. :) Hence the confusion.
>
> Ta for the link. I'll definitely be trying this out.
>
> I prefer Unity simply because it operates with a similar plan to Mac OS (I
> know this isn't to everyone's tastes and I don't actually have a Mac myself
> but...) For users with even a tiny bit of computer experience under their
> belts, they are going to figure out pretty quickly how everything fits
> together. And it's a more "unified" experience. :P And I do have some small
> arguments with Unity, especially when I try to add a second screen to the
> setup. :) But on the whole I prefer it over Gnome3, for example, which I
> have tried.
>
> That being said I am willing to try out a new desktop environment and I've
> seen some great examples of what can be done with XFCE. It was just the
> site of a Gnome2 like DE that brought back nightmares of Ubuntu 8.xx and
> 9.xx :) way back when I first dabbled in Linux OS's. (I haven't been around
> Linux long. Especially as a regular user as opposed to the occasional Live
> disk to see what's available "over the garden wall".) :D
>
> Thanks for the info, now back to discussion topic. Any other good DE's
> to recommend?
>
> PS I've been using Ubuntu 12.04 for the past 4 weeks or so and discovered
> and replaced it with Ubuntu Studio a little over a week ago. :) About the
> same time I decided to upgrade my USB stick I use for Linux Distro's to
> USB3.0 :) Talk about a speed increase. ;)
>
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 10:00 PM, <
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>>    1. Re: Hi folks. which is best desquetop to use with buntu
>>       (Azarel Howard)
>>    2. Re: Hi folks. which is best desquetop to use with buntu
>>       (Mike Holstein)
>>    3. Re: Hi folks. which is best desquetop to use with buntu (Rob)
>>    4. Re: Hi folks. which is best desquetop to use with buntu
>>       (Mike Holstein)
>>    5. Re: Hi folks. which is best desquetop to use with buntu
>>       (Andrew Huys)
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>> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:42:44 +0000
>> From: Azarel Howard <azariah001 at gmail.com>
>> To: "ubuntu-studio-users at lists.ubuntu.com"
>>         <ubuntu-studio-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: Re: Hi folks. which is best desquetop to use with buntu
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>> I?m going to put my neck out and say Unity. If you?re going to use the
>> Ubuntu name then.... don?t mess with the foundation more than is needed
>> especially the UI. :) Move the launcher to the bottom by all means but...
>> don?t roll back to Gnome2
>>
>> I?ve been ?using? Ubuntu Studio for about a week now  (haven?t actually
>> used the software for recording or anything yet but I?ve started
>> customizing it and adding my personal software bits) Going back to the
>> Gnome2 interface from Pre-Ubuntu 10.04 was a disaster. It?s not logical
>> let?s put it this way. If you?re going to have a launcher the applications
>> should minimize to there not to the top of the screen! :|
>>
>> Also the login screen needs to be able to detect when you've installed
>> other GUI?s cause Unity isn?t coming up as a login option.
>>
>> Well that?s my 20c :)
>>
>> Get the feeling I?m one of the minority that actually likes the new Unity
>> interface and dislikes Gnome but... we all have our own tastes.
>>
>> azariah
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>> From: Mike Holstein <mikeh789 at gmail.com>
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>> On Sep 22, 2012 5:43 PM, "Azarel Howard" <azariah001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I?m going to put my neck out and say Unity. If you?re going to use the
>> Ubuntu name then.... don?t mess with the foundation more than is needed
>> especially the UI. :) Move the launcher to the bottom by all means but...
>> don?t roll back to Gnome2
>> >
>> > I?ve been ?using? Ubuntu Studio for about a week now  (haven?t actually
>> used the software for recording or anything yet but I?ve started
>> customizing it and adding my personal software bits) Going back to the
>> Gnome2 interface from Pre-Ubuntu 10.04 was a disaster. It?s not logical
>> let?s put it this way. If you?re going to have a launcher the applications
>> should minimize to there not to the top of the screen! :|
>> >
>> > Also the login screen needs to be able to detect when you've installed
>> other GUI?s cause Unity isn?t coming up as a login option.
>> >
>> > Well that?s my 20c :)
>> >
>> > Get the feeling I?m one of the minority that actually likes the new
>> Unity
>> interface and dislikes Gnome but... we all have our own tastes.
>> >
>> > azariah
>>
>> I think unity is fine. I don't think I'll ever use it personally, but I
>> have no problem suggesting its use, or supporting it. Ubuntustudio ships
>> with xfce. If you have been using unity, you have not been using
>> ubuntustudio. Back when both ubuntu and ubuntustudio both used gnome2, I
>> would routinely install ubuntu and add what I needed from the audio,
>> video,
>> and graphics packages. As I stated before, this can still easily be done.
>> If one wants to run unity, you install ubuntu, and add what you want from
>> either the audio, video and/or graphics packages, or you can install
>> ubuntustudio, and from there install the ubuntu-desktop.
>>
>> We chose xfce for a few reasons. The look and feel was more like that of
>> the older ubuntustudio gnome2 desktop, and the xubuntu team is just
>> awesome
>> and so helpful.
>>
>> There are lots of folks who use some ubuntu base, and take advantage of
>> either the ubuntustudio packages or metapackages. Users are welcome and
>> encouraged to do this. Kubuntu base users, xubuntu, lubuntu... custom
>> minimal versions or the main vanilla distro running unity.
>>
>> The facts:
>> "Best" is a matter of opinion.
>> Ubuntustudio ships with xfce.
>> The studio packages work with all of them.
>> You can easily switch between them.
>> Unity is an option.
>>
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>> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:43:30 -0400
>> From: Rob <lau at kudla.org>
>> To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion
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>> Subject: Re: Hi folks. which is best desquetop to use with buntu
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>> On 09/22/2012 05:42 PM, Azarel Howard wrote:
>> > I?ve been ?using? Ubuntu Studio for about a week now  (haven?t actually
>> > used the software for recording or anything yet but I?ve started
>> > customizing it and adding my personal software bits) Going back to the
>> > Gnome2 interface from Pre-Ubuntu 10.04 was a disaster. It?s not logical
>>
>> Ubuntu Studio currently uses XFCE, not any version of GNOME. Personally,
>> I'm pretty grateful for that, having been running XFCE ever since the
>> advent of Unity anyway.  But I keep my taskbar on the top, also grateful
>> that it doesn't double as a launcher and even more so that it doesn't group
>> all my Pidgin or Thunar windows into one entry like proprietary operating
>> systems (and those who would imitate them) do.
>>
>> Of course, there's no reason you can't apt-get install ubuntu-desktop if
>> you'd rather pretend you're using an off-brand tablet.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
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>> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:59:00 -0400
>> From: Mike Holstein <mikeh789 at gmail.com>
>> To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion
>>         <ubuntu-studio-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: Re: Hi folks. which is best desquetop to use with buntu
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>> On Sep 22, 2012 6:43 PM, "Rob" <lau at kudla.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 09/22/2012 05:42 PM, Azarel Howard wrote:
>> > > I?ve been ?using? Ubuntu Studio for about a week now  (haven?t
>> actually
>> > > used the software for recording or anything yet but I?ve started
>> > > customizing it and adding my personal software bits) Going back to the
>> > > Gnome2 interface from Pre-Ubuntu 10.04 was a disaster. It?s not
>> logical
>> >
>> > Ubuntu Studio currently uses XFCE, not any version of GNOME. Personally,
>> I'm pretty grateful for that, having been running XFCE ever since the
>> advent of Unity anyway.  But I keep my taskbar on the top, also grateful
>> that it doesn't double as a launcher and even more so that it doesn't
>> group
>> all my Pidgin or Thunar windows into one entry like proprietary operating
>> systems (and those who would imitate them) do.
>> >
>> > Of course, there's no reason you can't apt-get install ubuntu-desktop if
>> you'd rather pretend you're using an off-brand tablet.
>> >
>> > Rob
>> That reminds me.. since ubuntu is providing the most current version of
>> gnome (just like it always has) it is also easy to install gnome3 and use
>> it with the ubuntustudio packages... enjoy them all!
>> >
>> >
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>> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 22:03:16 -0400
>> From: Andrew Huys <musiek.sparta.nc at gmail.com>
>> To: ubuntu-studio-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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>> On 9/22/12 5:42 PM, Azarel Howard wrote:
>> > I'm going to put my neck out and say Unity. If you're going to use the
>> > Ubuntu name then.... don't mess with the foundation more than is
>> > needed especially the UI. :) Move the launcher to the bottom by all
>> > means but... don't roll back to Gnome2
>> > I've been 'using' Ubuntu Studio for about a week now (haven't actually
>> > used the software for recording or anything yet but I've started
>> > customizing it and adding my personal software bits) Going back to the
>> > Gnome2 interface from Pre-Ubuntu 10.04 was a disaster. It's not
>> > logical let's put it this way. If you're going to have a launcher the
>> > applications should minimize to there not to the top of the screen! :|
>> > Also the login screen needs to be able to detect when you've installed
>> > other GUI's cause Unity isn't coming up as a login option.
>> > Well that's my 20c :)
>> > Get the feeling I'm one of the minority that actually likes the new
>> > Unity interface and dislikes Gnome but... we all have our own tastes.
>> > azariah
>> >
>> >
>> "If you're going to have a launcher the applications should minimize to
>> there not to the top of the screen! :|"
>>
>> One of the advantages of XFCE is that it is highly customizable.  It is
>> possible to move the Window Buttons to the bottom of the screen. Check
>> out <http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-09052012-121814pm.php#>
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