Ubuntu-Studio-users Digest, Vol 65, Issue 19

Azarel Howard azariah001 at gmail.com
Sun Sep 23 19:52:20 UTC 2012


I stand correct on the Gnome thing. :P I did a little research after I
posted that and found out it's XFCE :P Looks pretty much the same as gnome2
except for the launcher. :) Hence the confusion.

Ta for the link. I'll definitely be trying this out.

I prefer Unity simply because it operates with a similar plan to Mac OS (I
know this isn't to everyone's tastes and I don't actually have a Mac myself
but...) For users with even a tiny bit of computer experience under their
belts, they are going to figure out pretty quickly how everything fits
together. And it's a more "unified" experience. :P And I do have some small
arguments with Unity, especially when I try to add a second screen to the
setup. :) But on the whole I prefer it over Gnome3, for example, which I
have tried.

That being said I am willing to try out a new desktop environment and I've
seen some great examples of what can be done with XFCE. It was just the
site of a Gnome2 like DE that brought back nightmares of Ubuntu 8.xx and
9.xx :) way back when I first dabbled in Linux OS's. (I haven't been around
Linux long. Especially as a regular user as opposed to the occasional Live
disk to see what's available "over the garden wall".) :D

Thanks for the info, now back to discussion topic. Any other good DE's
to recommend?

PS I've been using Ubuntu 12.04 for the past 4 weeks or so and discovered
and replaced it with Ubuntu Studio a little over a week ago. :) About the
same time I decided to upgrade my USB stick I use for Linux Distro's to
USB3.0 :) Talk about a speed increase. ;)

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>    1. Re: Hi folks. which is best desquetop to use with buntu
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>       (Mike Holstein)
>    3. Re: Hi folks. which is best desquetop to use with buntu (Rob)
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> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:42:44 +0000
> From: Azarel Howard <azariah001 at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: Hi folks. which is best desquetop to use with buntu
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> I?m going to put my neck out and say Unity. If you?re going to use the
> Ubuntu name then.... don?t mess with the foundation more than is needed
> especially the UI. :) Move the launcher to the bottom by all means but...
> don?t roll back to Gnome2
>
> I?ve been ?using? Ubuntu Studio for about a week now  (haven?t actually
> used the software for recording or anything yet but I?ve started
> customizing it and adding my personal software bits) Going back to the
> Gnome2 interface from Pre-Ubuntu 10.04 was a disaster. It?s not logical
> let?s put it this way. If you?re going to have a launcher the applications
> should minimize to there not to the top of the screen! :|
>
> Also the login screen needs to be able to detect when you've installed
> other GUI?s cause Unity isn?t coming up as a login option.
>
> Well that?s my 20c :)
>
> Get the feeling I?m one of the minority that actually likes the new Unity
> interface and dislikes Gnome but... we all have our own tastes.
>
> azariah
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> On Sep 22, 2012 5:43 PM, "Azarel Howard" <azariah001 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I?m going to put my neck out and say Unity. If you?re going to use the
> Ubuntu name then.... don?t mess with the foundation more than is needed
> especially the UI. :) Move the launcher to the bottom by all means but...
> don?t roll back to Gnome2
> >
> > I?ve been ?using? Ubuntu Studio for about a week now  (haven?t actually
> used the software for recording or anything yet but I?ve started
> customizing it and adding my personal software bits) Going back to the
> Gnome2 interface from Pre-Ubuntu 10.04 was a disaster. It?s not logical
> let?s put it this way. If you?re going to have a launcher the applications
> should minimize to there not to the top of the screen! :|
> >
> > Also the login screen needs to be able to detect when you've installed
> other GUI?s cause Unity isn?t coming up as a login option.
> >
> > Well that?s my 20c :)
> >
> > Get the feeling I?m one of the minority that actually likes the new Unity
> interface and dislikes Gnome but... we all have our own tastes.
> >
> > azariah
>
> I think unity is fine. I don't think I'll ever use it personally, but I
> have no problem suggesting its use, or supporting it. Ubuntustudio ships
> with xfce. If you have been using unity, you have not been using
> ubuntustudio. Back when both ubuntu and ubuntustudio both used gnome2, I
> would routinely install ubuntu and add what I needed from the audio, video,
> and graphics packages. As I stated before, this can still easily be done.
> If one wants to run unity, you install ubuntu, and add what you want from
> either the audio, video and/or graphics packages, or you can install
> ubuntustudio, and from there install the ubuntu-desktop.
>
> We chose xfce for a few reasons. The look and feel was more like that of
> the older ubuntustudio gnome2 desktop, and the xubuntu team is just awesome
> and so helpful.
>
> There are lots of folks who use some ubuntu base, and take advantage of
> either the ubuntustudio packages or metapackages. Users are welcome and
> encouraged to do this. Kubuntu base users, xubuntu, lubuntu... custom
> minimal versions or the main vanilla distro running unity.
>
> The facts:
> "Best" is a matter of opinion.
> Ubuntustudio ships with xfce.
> The studio packages work with all of them.
> You can easily switch between them.
> Unity is an option.
>
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> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:43:30 -0400
> From: Rob <lau at kudla.org>
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> Subject: Re: Hi folks. which is best desquetop to use with buntu
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> On 09/22/2012 05:42 PM, Azarel Howard wrote:
> > I?ve been ?using? Ubuntu Studio for about a week now  (haven?t actually
> > used the software for recording or anything yet but I?ve started
> > customizing it and adding my personal software bits) Going back to the
> > Gnome2 interface from Pre-Ubuntu 10.04 was a disaster. It?s not logical
>
> Ubuntu Studio currently uses XFCE, not any version of GNOME. Personally,
> I'm pretty grateful for that, having been running XFCE ever since the
> advent of Unity anyway.  But I keep my taskbar on the top, also grateful
> that it doesn't double as a launcher and even more so that it doesn't group
> all my Pidgin or Thunar windows into one entry like proprietary operating
> systems (and those who would imitate them) do.
>
> Of course, there's no reason you can't apt-get install ubuntu-desktop if
> you'd rather pretend you're using an off-brand tablet.
>
> Rob
>
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> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:59:00 -0400
> From: Mike Holstein <mikeh789 at gmail.com>
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> On Sep 22, 2012 6:43 PM, "Rob" <lau at kudla.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 09/22/2012 05:42 PM, Azarel Howard wrote:
> > > I?ve been ?using? Ubuntu Studio for about a week now  (haven?t actually
> > > used the software for recording or anything yet but I?ve started
> > > customizing it and adding my personal software bits) Going back to the
> > > Gnome2 interface from Pre-Ubuntu 10.04 was a disaster. It?s not logical
> >
> > Ubuntu Studio currently uses XFCE, not any version of GNOME. Personally,
> I'm pretty grateful for that, having been running XFCE ever since the
> advent of Unity anyway.  But I keep my taskbar on the top, also grateful
> that it doesn't double as a launcher and even more so that it doesn't group
> all my Pidgin or Thunar windows into one entry like proprietary operating
> systems (and those who would imitate them) do.
> >
> > Of course, there's no reason you can't apt-get install ubuntu-desktop if
> you'd rather pretend you're using an off-brand tablet.
> >
> > Rob
> That reminds me.. since ubuntu is providing the most current version of
> gnome (just like it always has) it is also easy to install gnome3 and use
> it with the ubuntustudio packages... enjoy them all!
> >
> >
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> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 22:03:16 -0400
> From: Andrew Huys <musiek.sparta.nc at gmail.com>
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> On 9/22/12 5:42 PM, Azarel Howard wrote:
> > I'm going to put my neck out and say Unity. If you're going to use the
> > Ubuntu name then.... don't mess with the foundation more than is
> > needed especially the UI. :) Move the launcher to the bottom by all
> > means but... don't roll back to Gnome2
> > I've been 'using' Ubuntu Studio for about a week now (haven't actually
> > used the software for recording or anything yet but I've started
> > customizing it and adding my personal software bits) Going back to the
> > Gnome2 interface from Pre-Ubuntu 10.04 was a disaster. It's not
> > logical let's put it this way. If you're going to have a launcher the
> > applications should minimize to there not to the top of the screen! :|
> > Also the login screen needs to be able to detect when you've installed
> > other GUI's cause Unity isn't coming up as a login option.
> > Well that's my 20c :)
> > Get the feeling I'm one of the minority that actually likes the new
> > Unity interface and dislikes Gnome but... we all have our own tastes.
> > azariah
> >
> >
> "If you're going to have a launcher the applications should minimize to
> there not to the top of the screen! :|"
>
> One of the advantages of XFCE is that it is highly customizable.  It is
> possible to move the Window Buttons to the bottom of the screen. Check
> out <http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-09052012-121814pm.php#>
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