To fix the broken 12.10 release proposed updates might help

Ralf Mardorf ralf.mardorf at
Mon Nov 26 10:26:53 UTC 2012

Not tested myself and IMO this is just a minor issue, but perhaps there
will follow more fixes in proposed updates.

I wonder if switching to another DE would help to get back a stable
desktop environment. OTOH I'm tired of unstopping switching the DE.

Btw. is there a repository to downgrade Xfce and important dependencies?

I also would like to get a downgraded version of GIMP and Evolution for

Is nobody on this list running into issues?

Btw. GIMP isn't buggy, it's still stable, but the workflow is broken,
too much changed.


-------- Forwarded Message --------
From: Mark Trickett <tiberopoulos at>
Reply-to: Xubuntu Support and User Discussions
<xubuntu-users at>
To: xubuntu-users at
Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] update-manager not on any of the menus and
can't be put, there? (Andy Proctor)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:01:21 +0200

On 26/11/12 11:57, Mark Trickett wrote:
> Message: 1 Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 20:50:41 +0000 From: Andy Proctor 
> <xubuntu.list at> To: xubuntu-users at 
> Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] update-manager not on any of the menus 
> and can't be put there? Message-ID: <50B13321.9060406 at> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 
> 24/11/12 18:56, Knute Johnson wrote:
>>> On 11/24/2012 10:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 2012-11-24 at 08:53 -0800, Knute Johnson wrote:
>>>>> On 11/23/2012 01:36 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 2012-11-23 at 20:48 +0000, Andy Proctor wrote:
>>>>>>> On 23/11/12 14:07, Vincent Trouilliez wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Knute Johnson
>>>>>>>> <ubuntu at> wrote:
>>>>>>>>            If I go into the Settings Manager, select Main Menu,
>>>>>>>> select
>>>>>>>>            a submenu (in this case System) and then attempt to 
>>>>>>>> enable
>>>>>>>>            the Software Updater (which is update-manager) 
>>>>>>>> program on
>>>>>>>>            any of the menus it disables itself in a few seconds.
>>>>>>>> I hit
>>>>>>>>            the checkbox next to update-manager and a few seconds
>>>>>>>> later
>>>>>>>>            it un-checks.  Anybody know what I'm doing wrong?
>>>>>>>> I don't think yo are doing anything wrong: I did a clean 
>>>>>>>> install of
>>>>>>>> XUbuntu12.10 and appear to have the same problem !
>>>>>>>> Actually it doesn't appear to have anything to do with the
>>>>>>>> update-manager itself, as I tried enabling other items in the 
>>>>>>>> system
>>>>>>>> menu and they too disable themselves a second after I check their
>>>>>>>> boxes !
>>>>>>>> Definitely a good case for a bug report IMHO ! :-/
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> Vince
>>>>>>> Agree, I've tried what you said and have the same problem.
>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>> Delete ~/.cache, I couldn't change fonts and e.g. even after editing
>>>>>> Evolution's config I couldn't change anything, because Evolution and
>>>>>> e.g. the appearance settings were used from the cache, even after
>>>>>> rebooting.
>>>>>> After deleting the cache, until now everything is ok.
>>>>>> Hth,
>>>>>> Ralf
>>>>> That didn't work.  Do you need to be root to change menus?
>>>> No, this can be done with user privileges.
>>>> I did edit my menu with Alacarte (the app for "Main Menu") and I
>>>> experienced that I couldn't edit all entries as wanted. I couldn't
>>>> uncheck some, but delete them, I also couldn't add some apps that I
>>>> deleted some time before to the same menu were they were before, 
>>>> instead
>>>> I had to put them to the sub menu "Other", deleting the cache indeed
>>>> didn't help.
>>>> :(
>>> I found a bug for this.  It is specific to Xubuntu.  alacarte writes
>>> the menu file to the wrong name on Xubuntu.  I just copied my
>>> ~/.config/menus/ file to file
>>> and it now works fine.
>>> It is supposed to be fixed in R(can't remember) and they said there
>>> was a fix in Quantal proposed but I can't find it there. The work
>>> around is OK for now I guess.
>>> Bug #1069207
>>> Thanks,
>> Dear Knute, this workaround solves it, many thanks! I look forward to
>> the fix in a future release, till then all good!
>> Andy
> I ran into this just last night. I noticed that there's an update to 
> Alacarte (the software that is the menu item editor in Xubuntu 12.10) 
> and it's been accepted into Pre-Release Updates Proposed. So, in 
> Software Sources/Updater, I enabled backports, ran an update, and it 
> was fixed.
> Mark
Sorry major edit: Enable proposed updates.....not backports...Apologies


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