Has somebody a stable Ubuntu Studio NATTY 64-bit?

Tue May 31 14:12:51 UTC 2011

finally we get to the bottom line. we actually *are* having the 'analog vs
digital' debate. theres no need to have that debate here.

the issue im trying to highlight is advocacy ralph. if you want to discount
*all* digital recording methods, go for it. if i had the money, time,
patience and space, i would quite enjoy having an analog setup. but, for
now, digital recording is SO much easier for me to deal with. and for others
who come to this list, and others you communicate with, this is the case as
well. most audio production is done digitally these days, and i feel like it
is important for us as ubuntu users to help promote the tools we have. ALSO,
using terms like "pro-fools" to refer to protools is unnecessary. we
probably have users here that are using both protools and ardour, or maybe
protools on their production machines, and looking at ubuntu on a desktop
platform. i feel like this is an unnecessary alienating step. personally, i
dont use protools, but that doesnt mean that its use is "wrong". and to
imply that is not a 'community building' attitude.

i would like to think that any audio professional or home user using
whatever OS or proprietary software could come to this list, and feel
welcome. and i would like to ask all the long-time users to become
ambassadors, embracing the technology we have, and helping spread the
positives, as well as internally helping address and resolve the negatives.

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net>wrote:

> I'm still reading all mails, but the only thing I've to add, for a lsat
> time is ...
> Just again, Ardour2 is the best HD recording software I know, I call
> ProTools "Pro Fools". My claim is, that neither Ardour2, nor any other
> software should be used to record orchestras. No discussion about cut,
> copy and paste for orchestra recordings. But well, a note to the
> microphoning. Dirk Brauner borrowed microphones for orchestra recordings
> done in studio halls and also for orchestra recordings in sport halls.
> The Tim Isfort Orchester
> http://www.amazon.de/Tim-Isfort-Orchester/dp/B00000B5Y7
> recording was done in a sports hall, pardon, it was a school hall,
> anyway, you can't compare such a production with studio hall recordings.
> It's always a discussion if an orchestra recording can be cut, copied
> and pasted. Perhaps there might be one point at 25 minutes of a 45
> minute recording where it's possible and done, regarding to costs.
>
> On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 08:21 -0400, Mac wrote:
> > Well, I sort of agree with both lines of thought here.
> >
> > 1. Having a stable recording platform where there are zero hick-ups of
> > any kind is important for live recording.
> >
> > 2. In a studio environment there may be many stops, but, the people
> > paying for the recording time won't be thrilled paying for breaks to
> > deal with buffer overruns.
> >
> > That said, I've successfully done 2+ hour recordings of musical
> > theater events with 24 channels via firewire into Ardour.
> >
> > That was with Ubuntu 9x, a tweaked kernel from Luke, and locally
> > compiled latest (at that time) Ardour. I got to that point only after
> > a lot of help from Paul, Luke and others. I have not attempted
> > anything like this since then.
> >
> > FWIW: I did some quick tests with the same hardware using the latest
> > AVLinux...it just worked out-of-the-box, no tweaks or after install
> > setups.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Ricardo Lameiro
> > <ricardolameiro at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Well, Ralf.
> > >
> > > You seem to like to talk to other person from top down. well i will
> > > tell you maybe Mike is right.
> > > There is ONLY ONE situation where a sound engeneering needs to record
> > > for more than 60 minutes non stop. a Live concert.
> > > In studio an orchestra can stop a lot. And dont come tell me that I am
> > > liyng or that it isnt true. I play in orchestr and recorded like that,
> > > and I ha a teacher in the Belgium radio orchestra and another teacher
> > > on the Bamberger symphoniker. Everywhere is the same!!!!!!
> > >
> > > Another thing, why the hell are the technicias that spread Audio
> > > foolery FUD????? (Fear, Unceartinty and Doubt). Technicias and sound
> > > engeneeres dont like change, dont want to learn new workflows... it
> > > isnt uncomon to see technicias recording with very old software...
> > > they say it sounds better.....ya right....
> > > Ardour is made by the same man that created JACK. JACK is way, really
> > > way better than ASIO made by a top funded company. That technology is
> > > the ardoour core.
> > > So to finalize, if you dont want to be acused of misinformation , then
> > > test ardour recording an orchestra first, on a top notch
> > > Computer/hardware (not on that old machine at home to run linux
> > > because windows cant handle it...)
> > >  and then come and say the result. Then i will believe you.
> > >
> > > Ãnothaer thing to recor an orchestra Professionaly you dont need much.
> > > A very good matched pair mics, very good placement mics and good
> > > converters.. Technically you could record an orchestra with comand
> > > line ...... like arecord....
> > >
> > > See ya
> > >
> > >
> > > 2011/5/31 Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net>:
> > >> On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 00:36 -0400, Mike Holstein wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> i'll use what i want for my professional needs, and you use what you
> > >>> want.
> > >>
> > >> Mike, that isn't the point. You said that I spread misinformation. I
> > >> simply would explain that you can't recommend Ardour for professional
> > >> usage when you record big orchestras, where nothing can be cut, copied
> > >> and pasted. The musicians need to play 60 minutes or longer without
> > >> fault (but they will fault several times), the company, e.g. the WDR
> > >> needs to pay an "VIP" audio engineer [1], a studio hall, a studio
> truck,
> > >> catering etc. pp..
> > >>
> > >> One crash could cost thousands of $ or €.
> > >>
> > >> You are thinking of small studios, that might do good jobs, but that's
> > >> not where the big money is made.
> > >>
> > >> Pardon Mike, please answer this questions) Did you ever made such an
> > >> orchestra recording using Ardour? Did you ever made any orchestra
> > >> recording in this price segment?
> > >>
> > >> I won't abuse you and I don't say that Ardour isn't a good
> application,
> > >> my intend is just to explain, that there is a professional audio
> branch
> > >> where using Ardour and of cause ProFools too can't be done.
> > >>
> > >> [1] VIP audio engineers puts their pants on the same way as we do, but
> > >> big companies like the WDR use their names to sell recordings.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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