Has somebody a stable Ubuntu Studio NATTY 64-bit?

Ralf Mardorf ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net
Sun May 29 15:00:35 UTC 2011

On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 09:41 -0500, Erik Rasmussen wrote:
> Ralf, have you tried 11.04 AMD64 using the Ubuntu Studio install,
> instead of just applying the packages to a different version? (Might
> be worth trying.)

I fear that this did cause some of the issues.
Natty is an Ubuntu Studio install. After installing I added Edubuntu
packages. Most issues were already there, when it was a clean vanilla
Ubuntu Studio install.

For Maverick I did it versa vice I installed Edununtu and after
installing Ubuntu Studio.
Excepted of the mouse wheel issue, Maverick is the best workstation I
ever had!

I now will test Debian stable first and perhaps mix it with testing,
after correspondences at LAU, especially with Robin Gareus, this seems
to be what is most near to my needs and wishes.

- A stable desktop environment, perhaps outdated.
- Current audio applications, not outdated.
- Near to former 64 Studio, openDAW will be based on Debian.
- Near to Ubuntu/Ubuntu Studio.
- No PulseAudio.

There's no guarantee that anything will be better than it is for Ubuntu
on my machine regarding to X, the mouse wheel and some other issues, but
at least I would get rid of PA issues, without cheap tricks, that will
come with issues.

I'll keep and try to fix my Ubuntu at another time, at the moment I'm
interested in making music, instead of spending much time to fix trouble
and writing around two mails each hour to mailing lists 24/7. This must
be annoying for others too.
> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 08:59, Ralf Mardorf
> <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net> wrote:
>         On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 07:14 -0500, Scott Lavender wrote:
>         >
>         >
>         > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Ralf Mardorf
>         > <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net> wrote:
>         >         Pardon, Natty 64-bit, not Maverick. For my Maverick
>         32-bit,
>         >         based on
>         >         Edubuntu there are less issues.
>         >
>         >
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>         > Ralf,
>         >
>         > I have a stable install of Natty Studio.
>         >
>         > scott at natty-studio:~$ uname -a
>         > Linux natty-studio 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr
>         11 03:31:24
>         > UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>         >
>         > I should point out that my Delta44 card worked out of the
>         box and my
>         > mouse scroll wheel works as well.
>         >
>         > I can't imagine why you have so much trouble with hardware.
>         >
>         > ScottL
>         And software that doesn't work, such as mdetect and
>         make-googleearth-package or that XFDE will spam GNOME with
>         windows
>         asking for mail notification or which file manager I wish to
>         use and
>         after answering I will be asked again and again.
>         Even the GNOME theme sometimes needs a logout and login,
>         regarding to
>         panel issues.
>         If I would know another distro that is that near to my needs
>         as Ubuntu
>         Studio is, I would switch the distro.
>         Btw. Debian would be a distro to switch, if the stable
>         wouldn't be that
>         outdated.
>         I'll try the testing, wheezy. I keep my Ubuntu installs, but
>         I'll see if
>         there are no or less issues using Debian.
>         OT: The sound of your M-Audio Delta is ok? A friend has got a
>         M-Audio
>         Delta (AFAIK with 8 channels) and he said, that it does cause
>         the same
>         bad, muddy sound quality as my TerraTec EWX 24/96 do. He
>         switched from
>         the TerraTec to the Delta, one of my two cards is one of his
>         old cards.
>         He experienced the same sound quality issue for Linux and
>         Windows. I
>         didn't hear his Delta myself. He said, that when using the DAT
>         recorders
>         IOs by S/PDIF, the sound is ok. I wonder if I get rid of my
>         sound
>         issues, when using the RME HDSPe AIO? Unfortunately S/PDIF for
>         my
>         TerraTec doesn't work. The friend, Thomas, was developer and
>         soldering
>         lackey at Brauner microphones as I was too, Thomas and I still
>         are
>         friends and we were friends of Brauner since school time.
>         Anyway, we
>         don't compare our home recording equipment with the equipment
>         we used
>         when we worked as audio engineers, we just compare the
>         computer to Hifi
>         consumer DAT recorders, CD players, 4-Track analog cassette
>         recorders
>         etc.. My TerraTecs and his Delta don't reach this digital
>         consumer/analog home recording quality. But that we did
>         develop
>         professional studio equipment and we also were FLOSS coders
>         for the C64
>         and such old computers, doesn't mean that we have knowledge
>         about modern
>         digital recording. I'm not kidding. I wonder if Thomas and I
>         miss just a
>         tininess that will cause issues. OTOH Brauner borrowed me a
>         Mac with bad
>         software, but the Moto Firewire device's sound quality was
>         good, no
>         issues and I didn't do anything different to now, when using
>         it ... a
>         long time ago, when the highest sample rate was 96 KHz. Btw.
>         IMO 48 KHz
>         should be enough for home recording, below there's audible
>         loss, but if
>         the analog IOs and AD/DA converters are ok, 48 KHz even for
>         professional
>         studios should be high enough for nearly every kind of
>         production. If I
>         would have the money, I would switch back to good analog audio
>         equipment. Well, my Behringer mixer is analog, but bad
>         anyway ;). Good
>         analog equipment is much to expensive these days, but still
>         easy to
>         handle, maintain, repair (discrete circuits, CME ships etc.
>         for old
>         synth are another topic), reliable and with the absolutely
>         perfect work
>         flow.
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