Ubuntu-Studio-users Digest, Vol 30, Issue 6
Alfons Verreijt
vocalfons at gmail.com
Tue Oct 13 10:28:49 BST 2009
Nice to hear what everyone is using.
@karl-heinz:
Two years ago i switched to 7.04 from xp. I alrady used reaper, after
ditching the expensive steinberg mammoth.
Fortunately, i am using hammerfall since 2002 (!) So my system was linux
ready from the start.
But be carefull with firewire maudio: the 1814 is NOT supported.
Anyone knows a usb solution that works great with US hardy?
Ano
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Today's Topics:
1. re: Vocals w/usb mic (jag32266)
2. Re: recording vocals (Fernando Gomes)
3. Re: Re: recording vocals (beejunk at gmail.com)
4. Re: Re: recording vocals (Fernando Gomes)
5. Re: recording vocals (Gustin Johnson)
6. Re: recording vocals (Gustin Johnson)
7. RE: Ubuntu-Studio-users Digest, Vol 30, Issue 5 (Karlheinz Noise)
8. Re: Ubuntu-Studio-users Digest, Vol 30, Issue 5 (Tommy yeah)
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:32:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: jag32266 <jag32266 at yahoo.com>
Subject: re: Vocals w/usb mic
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I got this about a year ago and have only done voice (readings) but not
instrument, singing. Real happy with it for both the price AND the quality.
I got the mount for it as well. Nice stuff and for this price,.. ya gotta be
kidding!
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Snowball
I am not affiliated with anyone, well,.. maybe my GF
jag32266
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:05:16 +0100
From: Fernando Gomes <f.m.gomes at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: recording vocals
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On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:25 PM, sandie <sandie at sandgreen.dk> wrote:
> teza wrote:
>> Hi ,Sandie, just a question, what will be your choice between Hardy and
>> Jaunty 32 bits, for my point of view I will choose the Hardy, but I
>> never use Jaunty 32 bits. Is there any troubles with rt kernel in
>> Jaunty?
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Regards from Paris (France)
>> Teza
>>
>>
> Someone told me (I think it was on this list), that it's a bad idea to
> use Hardy if you also use the same pc for internet, something about
> security ?
>
> I had some strange problems with the propriotary ATI driver and
> rt-kernel on Jaunty, and my husband's almost identical pc had no problems.
> Imho... I think the best solution wound be to find an old disk and take
> it for a test-drive.
>
> btw. why not try Karmic instead of Jaunty ?
>
> Regards from Demnark :-)
> Sandie
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Hi Teza and Sandie
My PC doesn't even boot with 8.10 and 9.04 rt kernels, but works very
well with 8.04 and also works (more or less) with 9.10 beta. I built
custom rt kernels for 8.10 and 9.04 to be able to make them work on my
hardware (AMD 780G chipset with a Athlon 64 X2 processor). Never
managed to run the proprietary ATI drivers with the rt kernels thow,
even on the new 9.10 beta (you can see my results at
http://openstudio.info). The ATI proprietary driver work with every
version with non rt kernels on the same hardware (I didn't test it yet
with the 9.10 beta not realtime). I still have some freezes with 9.10
with its rt kernel, no freezes using 8.04 with its rt kernel nor using
any of the custom built rt kernels (nor using non rt kernels from any
of these versions). So I I'll put my effort on having a stable 9.10
system with its rt kernel (32 bit, since I'll only have 2GB RAM, I
have no advantage on having a 64 bit OS).
Regards from Portugal!
Fernando
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Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:15:00 +0000
From: beejunk at gmail.com
Subject: Re: Re: recording vocals
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On Oct 9, 2009 11:05am, Fernando Gomes <fmgomes at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:25 PM, sandie sandie at sandgreen.dk> wrote:
> Hi Teza and Sandie
> My PC doesn't even boot with 8.10 and 9.04 rt kernels, but works very
> well with 8.04 and also works (more or less) with 9.10 beta. I built
> custom rt kernels for 8.10 and 9.04 to be able to make them work on my
> hardware (AMD 780G chipset with a Athlon 64 X2 processor). Never
> managed to run the proprietary ATI drivers with the rt kernels thow,
> even on the new 9.10 beta (you can see my results at
> http://openstudio.info). The ATI proprietary driver work with every
> version with non rt kernels on the same hardware (I didn't test it yet
> with the 9.10 beta not realtime). I still have some freezes with 9.10
> with its rt kernel, no freezes using 8.04 with its rt kernel nor using
> any of the custom built rt kernels (nor using non rt kernels from any
> of these versions). So I I'll put my effort on having a stable 9.10
> system with its rt kernel (32 bit, since I'll only have 2GB RAM, I
> have no advantage on having a 64 bit OS).
> Regards from Portugal!
> Fernando
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I was under the impression that the proprietary drivers were never updated
by ATI ever since a somewhat workable free driver became available. Which
put a lot of people in a bad spot because the free driver is not quite
up-to-speed yet, and many users found that they're 3D rendering was really
bad and there was no easy fix (I think that the proprietary drivers CAN be
used with 9.04, but not without a lot of work). As far as I know, Hardy was
the last system which had a truly working proprietary ATI driver.
This article covers the issue:
http://blogs.computerworld.com/the_ubuntu_and_ati_blues
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:36:40 +0100
From: Fernando Gomes <f.m.gomes at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Re: recording vocals
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On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:15 PM, <beejunk at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 9, 2009 11:05am, Fernando Gomes <f.m.gomes at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:25 PM, sandie sandie at sandgreen.dk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Teza and Sandie
>>
>>
>>
>> My PC doesn't even boot with 8.10 and 9.04 rt kernels, but works very
>>
>> well with 8.04 and also works (more or less) with 9.10 beta. I built
>>
>> custom rt kernels for 8.10 and 9.04 to be able to make them work on my
>>
>> hardware (AMD 780G chipset with a Athlon 64 X2 processor). Never
>>
>> managed to run the proprietary ATI drivers with the rt kernels thow,
>>
>> even on the new 9.10 beta (you can see my results at
>>
>> http://openstudio.info). The ATI proprietary driver work with every
>>
>> version with non rt kernels on the same hardware (I didn't test it yet
>>
>> with the 9.10 beta not realtime). ?I still have some freezes with 9.10
>>
>> with its rt kernel, no freezes using 8.04 with its rt kernel nor using
>>
>> any of the custom built rt kernels (nor using non rt kernels from any
>>
>> of these versions). So I I'll put my effort on having a stable 9.10
>>
>> system with its rt kernel (32 bit, since I'll only have 2GB RAM, I
>>
>> have no advantage on having a 64 bit OS).
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards from Portugal!
>>
>>
>>
>> Fernando
>>
>>
>>
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>
> I was under the impression that the proprietary drivers were never updated
> by ATI ever since a somewhat workable free driver became available. Which
> put a lot of people in a bad spot because the free driver is not quite
> up-to-speed yet, and many users found that they're 3D rendering was really
> bad and there was no easy fix (I think that the proprietary drivers CAN be
> used with 9.04, but not without a lot of work). As far as I know, Hardy
was
> the last system which had a truly working proprietary ATI driver.
>
> This article covers the issue:
>
> http://blogs.computerworld.com/the_ubuntu_and_ati_blues
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>
Yes, I had the ATI driver working on the 9.04 (non rt) after manually
installing it - I didn't remember exactly the process to do it, but it
worked (this is why now I'm logging my "work" on openstudio.info, this
way I have a memo of what I have done and can be also usefull to
others). I didn't managed to use the ATI proprietary drivers with the
rt kernel (I had to boot using the non rt kernel, change to the free
driver and boot again the rt kernel). The problem for me with the free
driver is that it is TERRIBLY SLOW... When I have a full screen
refresh I can see it being refreshed from top to bottom. With the ATI
driver (catalyst) it is very fast.
If you have some tips on how to use the proprietary drivers with the
rt kernel, please let me know ;-)
Fernando
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Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:14:26 -0600
From: Gustin Johnson <gustin at echostar.ca>
Subject: Re: recording vocals
To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion
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Fernando Gomes wrote:
<snip>
> Yes, I had the ATI driver working on the 9.04 (non rt) after manually
> installing it - I didn't remember exactly the process to do it, but it
> worked (this is why now I'm logging my "work" on openstudio.info, this
> way I have a memo of what I have done and can be also usefull to
> others). I didn't managed to use the ATI proprietary drivers with the
> rt kernel (I had to boot using the non rt kernel, change to the free
> driver and boot again the rt kernel). The problem for me with the free
> driver is that it is TERRIBLY SLOW... When I have a full screen
> refresh I can see it being refreshed from top to bottom. With the ATI
> driver (catalyst) it is very fast.
>
> If you have some tips on how to use the proprietary drivers with the
> rt kernel, please let me know ;-)
>
Don't do it if you can avoid it. Both ATI and nVIdia proprietary
drivers have caused me no end of pain in the last 8 years or so.
Also, the radeonhd drive is the open source driver but it does not
support all ATI devices. It *only* supports the recent line of "HD"
cards, basically the 38xx and later. For older cards you are limited to
the proprietary fglrx driver.
I just picked up a Core i7 and an ATI 4890. It should be interesting to
see how this rig works.
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Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:37:54 -0600
From: Gustin Johnson <gustin at echostar.ca>
Subject: Re: recording vocals
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sandie wrote:
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> btw. I always use a 32bit version, the 64bit is to immature for my taste
> (had lots of problems with wine, alsa and jack) but I test it whenever
> theres a new Ubuntu-release. The only place I have expirenced a
> remarkable difference between 32 and 64, is when I compile stuf.
>
I have no problems with alsa and jack in 64 bit. Wine makes sense that
it would have issues with 64 bit, since 32 bit apps misbehave on XP,
Vista, and Windows 7 64 bit as well.
I am a big fan of lots of RAM, so 32 bit just does not cut it anymore
for me. Having said that, I have been running my DAW in 64 bit for 4
years, nice and stable.
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Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:17:54 -0400
From: Karlheinz Noise <khzmusik at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Ubuntu-Studio-users Digest, Vol 30, Issue 5
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> Hi everybody, I think it will be a good idea to tell to the list what
> equipment we are using with Ubuntustudio, that will help in coming up
> with recommendations for what to get.
Good idea.
As for myself: I use M-Audio equipment almost exclusively. On my mastering
box, I have UbuStu Hardy with the M-Audio 2496 interface. Works like a
charm, with no driver limitations. Don't know if those drivers are
restricted, hopefully not, but if you accept restricted drivers you're in
the clear in either case. (I always make sure I have the option to use
restricted drivers in UbuStu, so I'm perhaps not the person you want to talk
to if you're trying to live up to FSF ideals.)
I also bought a digital Tascam board on the cheap. Tascam (at the time)
pretty much used TDIF exclusively, but M-Audio has a board that acts as an
interface to it. Now, this board is at my studio, and I don't use UbuStu
exclusively for that (I need Reaper and VSTi's) but I've tried it out in
UbuStu Hardy and it seems to work fine.
So, in my experience, M-Audio hardware is a pretty damn good choice.
I also have a friend who uses a Presonus firewire interface to his laptop,
and he's been using Linux OS's (various distributions) for years. So
Presonus seems like another good choice.
I've also heard that Roland's Edirol interfaces are kind of Linux-friendly,
but they all seem to me to be cheap plastic toys, so I've never actually had
an interest in testing them out. What few things I've got that are Edirol
seem to be really horrid as far as professional audio is concerned, but this
has nothing to do with Linux.
Also, if you're even a semi-professional musician, stay away from
SoundBlaster. It's cheap Chinese crap. Fortunately they had a hand in the
SoundFont specs, which is actually much better than the hardware.
Beyond that, I think most lower-level cards are OK for an average Linux
user. It's only when you get into the ProTools hardware range that things
become difficult. (My brother works for Avid, so I'm trying to convince him
otherwise, but give me a little leeway here.)
Oh, also you should use UbuStu 8.04 for the next year or two, until all the
bugs are worked out. Skip the 9.x versions altogether. Too many issues. This
isn't Windows, you don't need to install the latest and greatest OS to get
work done. "If it works, don't fix it" is especially applicable here. Nobody
here is a programmer, we're getting work done and not writing code, so make
sure you use only stable releases, even if they don't have as many features.
Trust me, you'll thank me later.
My two cents.
-Karlheinz
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:14:08 -0500
From: Tommy yeah <allornothin.tommy at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ubuntu-Studio-users Digest, Vol 30, Issue 5
To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion
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I use two Mackie Onyx 1660's daisy chained connected to a qaudcore UbuStu
Hardy install with Xfce. Mackie has worked flawlessly for me once I stopped
updating to 9.xx versions. I also have a Mackie Universal Pro for my control
surface which worked out of the box with Ardour. I use a M-audio Axiom for
midi control and triggers. I do not use the real time kernel because we only
record bands and don't use the setup in any way for live purposes. I'm
constantly impressed with Hardy/Ardour, Last night I was tracking bass on to
a session with 65 tracks playing back, with 25 or so effects on those tracks
without an xrun or "segmentation fault" :)
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Karlheinz Noise <khzmusik at hotmail.com
>wrote:
>
> > Hi everybody, I think it will be a good idea to tell to the list what
> > equipment we are using with Ubuntustudio, that will help in coming up
> > with recommendations for what to get.
>
> Good idea.
>
> As for myself: I use M-Audio equipment almost exclusively. On my mastering
> box, I have UbuStu Hardy with the M-Audio 2496 interface. Works like a
> charm, with no driver limitations. Don't know if those drivers are
> restricted, hopefully not, but if you accept restricted drivers you're in
> the clear in either case. (I always make sure I have the option to use
> restricted drivers in UbuStu, so I'm perhaps not the person you want to
talk
> to if you're trying to live up to FSF ideals.)
>
> I also bought a digital Tascam board on the cheap. Tascam (at the time)
> pretty much used TDIF exclusively, but M-Audio has a board that acts as an
> interface to it. Now, this board is at my studio, and I don't use UbuStu
> exclusively for that (I need Reaper and VSTi's) but I've tried it out in
> UbuStu Hardy and it seems to work fine.
>
> So, in my experience, M-Audio hardware is a pretty damn good choice.
>
> I also have a friend who uses a Presonus firewire interface to his laptop,
> and he's been using Linux OS's (various distributions) for years. So
> Presonus seems like another good choice.
>
> I've also heard that Roland's Edirol interfaces are kind of
Linux-friendly,
> but they all seem to me to be cheap plastic toys, so I've never actually
had
> an interest in testing them out. What few things I've got that are Edirol
> seem to be really horrid as far as professional audio is concerned, but
this
> has nothing to do with Linux.
>
> Also, if you're even a semi-professional musician, stay away from
> SoundBlaster. It's cheap Chinese crap. Fortunately they had a hand in the
> SoundFont specs, which is actually much better than the hardware.
>
> Beyond that, I think most lower-level cards are OK for an average Linux
> user. It's only when you get into the ProTools hardware range that things
> become difficult. (My brother works for Avid, so I'm trying to convince
him
> otherwise, but give me a little leeway here.)
>
> Oh, also you should use UbuStu 8.04 for the next year or two, until all
the
> bugs are worked out. Skip the 9.x versions altogether. Too many issues.
This
> isn't Windows, you don't need to install the latest and greatest OS to get
> work done. "If it works, don't fix it" is especially applicable here.
Nobody
> here is a programmer, we're getting work done and not writing code, so
make
> sure you use only stable releases, even if they don't have as many
features.
> Trust me, you'll thank me later.
>
> My two cents.
>
> -Karlheinz
> _______________________
> http://www.khznoise.com
>
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