Cinelerra and VST support

[Luis de Bethencourt]

On Jan 29, 2008 10:59 AM, Hartmut Noack <zettberlin at linuxuse.de> wrote:
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> Haig Dedeyan schrieb:
> > On January 28, 2008 08:57:02 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote:
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> >>
> >> VSTs are completely proprietary and licenses are needed to use it in linux.
> >>
> >> I'll repeat the Cinelerra story here even though a search will also
> >> yield the story.
> >>
> >> Cinelerra required some non-free components to build against. Even when
> >> addressing that it had about 1/3rd of its files unlicensed and or
> >> licenses that contradicted one another.
> >>
> >> -Cory
>
> True for VST - Seinberg/Yamaha do NOT licence the SDK in a way that is
> compatible with GPL-Software. Discussing that item with JAD-people I
> learned, that Steinberg do not do so because they are "evil" but because
> they are unaware of the issue. They distribute the SDK as "freeware" and
>  there could be a chance to convince them to release it with an
> Debian-approvable licence if someone they have serious reason to listen
> to pushes them a bit...
>
> Regarding Video-Codecs and the like:
>
> We must distiguish IP/licence-issues from conflicts with patents.
>
> MOST PATENTS THAT TROUBLE LINUX_USERS WORLD-WIDE ARE VOID IN EUROPE!!
>
> Anybody wonders why the heck those french Mandriva-Folks dare to ship a
> Distro WITH MP3-support o.o.t.b. ???
>
>
> This situation will not be solved by backing down every time - at least
> the prpblems should be addressed properly: to provide ISO-Downloads for
> people from countries free of software-patents and others for people in
> countries that suffer from enforcable sw-patents could be a start.
> And I do not see a loud protesting from Canonical (and/or Novell, RH,
> you name it) against these absurd and destructive laws.
>
>
> > Even if legal issues are in the way, perhaps an icon on the desktop popping up
> > a readme would help directing people where to go to get the missing packages,
> > something like what Audacity has done with LAME within its preferences.
>
> Would be good for starters also.
>
>
> > I believe Ubuntu or Kubuntu installer will ask the user if they want to
> > download LAME during the installation process.
> >
> > Regarding VST, or the need to get vst plugins to work,  perhaps this would be
> > a none issue if there were good quality ladspa/dssi synths/FX plugins
> > available.
>
>
> Vey well put!!! I back this absolutely! Let us support those who work on
> free alternatives and use the stuff that is out there - it can do much
> more then all those ST-addicts can see at first glance!!!

That's the key and goal of all this. Free/Open source alternatives.

>
>
> best regards
>
> HZN
> http://lapoc.de
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