[ubuntu-studio-devel] Fwd: Bug#888657: ladish: should this package be removed?

[Ross Gammon]

Hi All,

It is very likely that ladish/gladish will be removed from the Debian
archive soon, as it is not maintained upstream, and needs to be ported
away from GTK2.

Whilst we can probably keep it a little longer in Ubuntu, unless someone
steps up to take over maintenance (and do the porting work), it will be
lost eventually.

Do we have good alternatives?

Regards,

Ross

On 01/28/2018 04:18 PM, James Cowgill wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 28/01/18 14:16, trebmuh at tuxfamily.org wrote:
>> Le 2018-01-28 14:38, Simon McVittie a écrit :
>>> Source: flowcanvas
>>> Severity: important
>>> User: debian-qa at lists.debian.org
>>> Usertags: proposed-removal
>>> Control: clone -1 -2
>>> Control: reassign -2 ladish
>>> Control: retitle -2 ladish: should this package be removed?
>>>
>>> flowcanvas depends on numerous obsolete GNOME 2-era libraries
>>> (e.g. #885095) and hasn't had a maintainer upload since 2009. Its
>>> upstream
>>> website says:
>>>
>>>     **Note**: FlowCanvas is dead, long live Ganv!
>>>
>>> ganv is also in Debian as src:ganv; it's orphaned in Debian, but appears
>>> to have commit activity upstream.
>>>
>>> flowcanvas has one reverse-dependency in Debian, gladish (src:ladish),
>>> whose most recent maintainer upload was in 2014. web.archive.org says
>>> the ladish.org website has been down since mid 2014.
>> ladish looks to be maintained by alessio (last commit 20 Apr 2017) here :
>> https://github.com/alessio/ladish/
>> (the same goes laditools as well)
> You failed to mention that there has only been one non-merge commit to
> that repository since 2014.
>
> The truth is unless someone is willing to do the porting work, these
> packages are not going to survive whether they are "maintained" or not.
>
> James
>
>
>
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Date: 	Sun, 28 Jan 2018 15:18:47 +0000
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Hi,

On 28/01/18 14:16, trebmuh at tuxfamily.org wrote:
> Le 2018-01-28 14:38, Simon McVittie a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
>> Source: flowcanvas
>> Severity: important
>> User: debian-qa at lists.debian.org
>> Usertags: proposed-removal
>> Control: clone -1 -2
>> Control: reassign -2 ladish
>> Control: retitle -2 ladish: should this package be removed?
>>
>> flowcanvas depends on numerous obsolete GNOME 2-era libraries
>> (e.g. #885095) and hasn't had a maintainer upload since 2009. Its
>> upstream
>> website says:
>>
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 **Note**: FlowCanvas is dead, long live Ganv!
>>
>> ganv is also in Debian as src:ganv; it's orphaned in Debian, but appea=
rs
>> to have commit activity upstream.
>>
>> flowcanvas has one reverse-dependency in Debian, gladish (src:ladish),=

>> whose most recent maintainer upload was in 2014. web.archive.org says
>> the ladish.org website has been down since mid 2014.
>=20
> ladish looks to be maintained by alessio (last commit 20 Apr 2017) here=
 :
> https://github.com/alessio/ladish/
> (the same goes laditools as well)

You failed to mention that there has only been one non-merge commit to
that repository since 2014.

The truth is unless someone is willing to do the porting work, these
packages are not going to survive whether they are "maintained" or not.

James


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