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    <p>Hi All,</p>
    <p>It is very likely that ladish/gladish will be removed from the
      Debian archive soon, as it is not maintained upstream, and needs
      to be ported away from GTK2.<br>
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    <p>Whilst we can probably keep it a little longer in Ubuntu, unless
      someone steps up to take over maintenance (and do the porting
      work), it will be lost eventually.</p>
    <p>Do we have good alternatives?</p>
    <p>Regards,</p>
    <p>Ross<br>
    </p>
    <p>On 01/28/2018 04:18 PM, James Cowgill wrote:
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        <pre wrap="">Hi,

On 28/01/18 14:16, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:trebmuh@tuxfamily.org">trebmuh@tuxfamily.org</a> wrote:
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          <pre wrap="">Le 2018-01-28 14:38, Simon McVittie a écrit :
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            <pre wrap="">Source: flowcanvas
Severity: important
User: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:debian-qa@lists.debian.org">debian-qa@lists.debian.org</a>
Usertags: proposed-removal
Control: clone -1 -2
Control: reassign -2 ladish
Control: retitle -2 ladish: should this package be removed?

flowcanvas depends on numerous obsolete GNOME 2-era libraries
(e.g. #885095) and hasn't had a maintainer upload since 2009. Its
upstream
website says:

    **Note**: FlowCanvas is dead, long live Ganv!

ganv is also in Debian as src:ganv; it's orphaned in Debian, but appears
to have commit activity upstream.

flowcanvas has one reverse-dependency in Debian, gladish (src:ladish),
whose most recent maintainer upload was in 2014. web.archive.org says
the ladish.org website has been down since mid 2014.
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          <pre wrap="">
ladish looks to be maintained by alessio (last commit 20 Apr 2017) here :
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/alessio/ladish/">https://github.com/alessio/ladish/</a>
(the same goes laditools as well)
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You failed to mention that there has only been one non-merge commit to
that repository since 2014.

The truth is unless someone is willing to do the porting work, these
packages are not going to survive whether they are "maintained" or not.

James

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            <td>Bug#888657: ladish: should this package be removed?</td>
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            <td>Sun, 28 Jan 2018 15:21:07 +0000</td>
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            <td>James Cowgill <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jcowgill@debian.org"><jcowgill@debian.org></a></td>
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            <td>Debian Multimedia Maintainers
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            <td>Sun, 28 Jan 2018 15:18:47 +0000</td>
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            <th valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap">From: </th>
            <td>James Cowgill <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jcowgill@debian.org"><jcowgill@debian.org></a></td>
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            <td>James Cowgill <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jcowgill@debian.org"><jcowgill@debian.org></a>,
              <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:888657@bugs.debian.org">888657@bugs.debian.org</a></td>
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            <td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:trebmuh@tuxfamily.org">trebmuh@tuxfamily.org</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:888657@bugs.debian.org">888657@bugs.debian.org</a></td>
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