[ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol 111, Issue 13

[Yoshi]

Regarding 32-bit Ubuntu Studio...

I am in agreement with those who wish to continue support for old
functional hardware.  
I think as long as we can hold on, the better.  It's better for the
environment to not just trash old computers.  
And a lot of 32-bit software was made during a kind of computer
renaissance of VST instruments and effects.  

Nearly 100% of what I use for my digital audio workstation is 32-bit and
not a lot of it is available in 64-bit.  
I will still try out a 64-bit Linux system, but I never ever have the
demand for more RAM than 4 GB even though my main system has 12 GB.  My
used laptop runs just as well and it maxes out at 4 GB.  

I just don't think it's worth throwing away all that hard work
programmers put into older code.  
Thank goodness for Lubuntu.  I hope that Xubuntu also keeps the older
code.  
I could actually run my programs on Xubuntu with a low-latency kernel I
think.  
I will have to do more tests.  

Anyways, this is my first post.  I hope I'm not upsetting anybody with
my style.  
I love Ubuntu Studio.  Thanks for developing it.  

I couldn't edit the subject header on my email.  

Sincerely, 

Yoshi.  


-- May Peace Prevail On Earth

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>    1. Re:  i386 EOL plans for Ubuntu Studio? (Bryan Quigley)
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> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 17:14:35 -0400
> From: Bryan Quigley <bryan.quigley at canonical.com>
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> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] i386 EOL plans for Ubuntu Studio?
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> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 10:13 PM, Len Ovens <len at ovenwerks.net> wrote:
> > How does this affect users who use 32bit wine so they can use the standard
> > 32bit VST/VSTi? In other words the biggest reason for 32 bit ISOs on 64 bit
> > machines in Audio I know is to be able to use windows VST and VSTi. Aside
> > from using perfectly good HW that would otherwise be thrown away.
> 
> Wine will keep working until some long long future point where we drop
> i386 archive.  (Was discussed for a brief bit about being 18.10
> timeframe, but that's been taken fully from the discussion).
> 
> Wine can run on a 64-bit install (as a 32-bit app), Does VST/VSTi work
> in that case?
> 
> > Lets look at it anouther way. If I have 5 or 6 pieces of HW that are 32 bit
> > and 3 that are 64 bit. Then I am forced to find another distro for the 32
> > bit machines, what are my reasons for using Ubuntu for the few 64 bit
> > machines? How many people have been introduced to Ubuntu by people giving
> > new life to older HW with Ubuntu?
> 
> Option A. would just stop new users from installing 32-bit.  All the
> old machines would still work for the time being.  Specifically for a
> lot of the items that Ubuntu Studio is used for 64-bit is hands down
> better (Audio endocding, video editing, even gimp editing can do
> better).
> 
> > Ubuntu, a word that roughly means "inclusivness", is now becoming a company
> > that means exclusiveness... if you are poor and have to rely on handme downs
> > -> go away.
> >
> > BTW, the idea of shutting down 32bit archives has rather an interesting
> > message for basically any flavour aside from vanilla. It cuts at Lubuntu's
> > reason for being... who's next?
> 
> I'm asking to have a discussion about the cost/benefits of continuing
> to maintain the 32-bit ISO with every flavor.  Lubuntu has already
> decided to keep i386.  So let's keep this about Ubuntu Studio.
> 
> >
> > I expect in the future maybe we will here nerds say: We can't run linux on
> > here any more... maybe try open XT.
> >
> > As an aside, reading the wiki page
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy) Makes me wonder if there
> > isn't more using words with no meaning to make oneself seem impressive and
> > mark oneself as a world shaker while actually being nothing of the sort.
> >
> >
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