[ubuntu-studio-devel] Gedit

[lukefromdc at hushmail.com]

Ubuntu has stayed with gedit 3.10 all the way through using parts of GNOME 3.16
for good reason. Later versions are much harder to use, GNOME has become
known for designing only around one particular workflow concept. Pluma now builds
quite well with gtk3 or with gtk2 if the newly released 1.12 version is used.

Best of all, a lot of the really useful things and bugfixes that GNOME does do get
backported into MATE apps such as Pluma. I've spent a lot of time working with
MATE right now, generally running everything from git master so I see this up 
close.

A very big change is on the horizon with gtk3.20, Ubuntu 16.04 will miss it by using
gtk3.18 assuming current patterns continue, but 16.10 will presumably use Gtk3.20.

GTK 3.20 looks to me like the biggest change since the 2.32 to 3.0 jump, as the 
theming system is totally revised, I've been working for two days to update my theme
and I am not done yet. 

https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2015/11/20/a-gtk-update/

Most (but NOT all) of the themeing is a matter of this sort of change to support
"css nodes" which differ from the previous selectors in their names and in the 
fact that an application developer can attach them to custom widgets instead
of using the traditiional custom widget names that give an #mywidget selector.

In addition, GTK seems to use style classes a lot less internally, applying them to 
a few widgets but not most of them. Ones added to application code still work.

So. the selector  "GtkMenu .menuitem" becomes "menu menuitem" and then works
mostly like before.  The ".view" selector is one of the few style classes I've found so
far that still works from GTK's own code. Also some pseudoclasses change, so that

" .mywidget .mywidgetchild.vertical" may have to be written as 
"mywidget.vertical mywidgetchild"

Much more to this, I've just started digging into it. There are also advantages to this
code, notably that windows and frames defined by a widget are now much easier to
work with, so that if "mywidget" makes it's own window or frame for itself, using 

"mywidget.window" or "mywidget.frame" works in many cases. If the application packs
the widget into a frame that won't work. Still not sure about all the details but this is what
I am finding so far.




On 11/25/2015 at 3:38 PM, "Ralf Mardorf" <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net> wrote:
>
>There was a post a few days ago on another list. The version of 
>Gedit for  
>15.10 is not in sync with the version of the GNOME packages. 
>Perhaps it's  
>the same for the Ubuntu development release.
>
>Until now I didn't use pluma on Ubuntu, but I strongly recommend 
>to take a  
>look at it, it's my most used GUI editor.
>
>I do most things with pluma and nano. There are other editors I 
>like, but  
>to replace gedit IMO pluma is the best editor.
>
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