[ubuntu-studio-devel] [Blueprint ubuntustudio-video-x] ubuntustudio-video X

lukefromdc at hushmail.com lukefromdc at hushmail.com
Mon May 11 18:17:39 UTC 2015


Lightworks is not Free and not open source at this time. It also phones 
home for licensing just like in Windows, and without the source you do
not know what it is sending. No way I'm giving a blob known to phone
home access to my raw clips, given that I shoot activist news videos from
places like Baltimore.

Cinelerra does not seem to have kept up with the codecs, at least as installed
in Ubuntu from one of the PPA's I've used. My camera shoots in AVCHD and
Cinelerra can't use those files. I used to use Cinelerra to clean up choppy
video from a 20fps camera that sometimes shot duplicate frames-but
usually worked on the output from a kdenlive render job to do this.  Today
Shotcut can do a better job of that sort of interpolation.

Kdenlive has a much better GUI than Cinelerra to many, myself included. 
On the other hand, I suspect people who edit video judge all video editor
interfaces by how similar they are to the first video editor they put a lot
of time into using!  To me, it's about how easy it is for a kdenlive user to
use any other editor, for example. If someone learned to edit video on 
Blender and got to the point of being proficient with Blender's keyboard
shortcuts, that might turn all other video editor interfaces  into clunky,
hard to use throwbacks for that user. In short, video interfaces are like
DE's and I think people will always judge them by what they learned on.

On 5/11/2015 at 8:39 AM, "WMID" <wachin.id at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Jimm can you said me the name of this Swedish film maker who's 
>latest
>project are entirely done in Kdenlive, and the web page, or the 
>youtube
>channel
>
>2015-05-11 7:32 GMT-05:00 Jimmy Sjölund <jimmy at sjolund.se>:
>
>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Set Hallstrom 
><sakrecoer at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>> On 2015-05-11 10:25, Jimmy Sjölund wrote:
>>> > Blueprint changed by Jimmy Sjölund:
>>> >
>>> > Whiteboard set to:
>>> > - Investige implication of Kdenlive becoming official KDE 
>application
>>> > and future development, impact of kde libraries etc.: TODO
>>> >
>>>
>>> This is an interesting question! At the moment, there are 4 
>choices for
>>> video editing:
>>> - ptivi,
>>> - openshot
>>> - kdenlive,
>>> - blender
>>>
>>> On a personal note, i have to confess that ptivi and openshot 
>have given
>>> me nothing but frustrations. They are the reason i installed 
>kdenlive
>>> back when it was not included in ubuntustudio. I also believe 
>kdenlive
>>> is the only reason i have kde libraires.
>>>
>>> While i must say Kdenlive is a great tool, Blender VSE has 
>become
>>> amazingly powerful. So much that i had almost forgotten about 
>kdenlive
>>> all together...
>>>
>>>
>> The reason I put it up there is to check if it will affect 
>Ubuntu Studio
>> or not. It could be that it will continue to work just as 
>before, but it
>> raised some questions when I read Kdenlive's latest updates:
>> -----------------------------------
>> We stick to KDE Applications release schedule, which means one 
>bugfix
>> release every month, one feature improved version every 4 months.
>>
>> Since we are now based on Qt5/KF5, you NEED KDE Frameworks 5 to 
>run
>> Kdenlive.
>>
>> You will have to run a recent distribution offering KF5, this 
>may be
>> problematic at the beginning (you can stick to 0.9.10)...
>> -----------------------------------
>> So it could be that 0.9.10 would be that last version for Ubuntu 
>Studio,
>> or not.
>>
>> I have tried several video editors over the year and they all 
>have their
>> advantages and disadvantages. PiTiVi and openshot I would say 
>are in the
>> same category, easy to do home videos but not suitable for any 
>medium or
>> advanced editing. Making a amateur home music video with more 
>than one
>> video and one audio file is IMHO a mess.
>> Kdenlive is quite powerful, but not the best GUI. This might 
>have changed
>> with the latest version though. You can with some work do a lot 
>but it more
>> often require google skills and reading forums to understand how 
>to do it.
>> Not click-and-drag like in Mac or Windows environments.
>> Blender, to me, is more of a 3D application and not really a 
>video editor
>> even though you would be able to do a music video in Blender. I 
>think it's
>> a big step for someone new to linux to give them an advance 3D 
>application,
>> here go do some videos!
>>
>> So far Kdenlive have been the least worst choice. I know a 
>Swedish film
>> maker who's latest project are entirely done in Kdenlive.
>>
>> Then there is Lightworks and Cinelerra which are on the advanced 
>side.
>> They have a bit of more tricky licensing, but I haven't studied 
>them in
>> detail.
>>
>> /Jimmy
>>
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