[ubuntu-studio-devel] Feature Freeze Coming up
jimmy at sjolund.se
Thu Aug 20 08:17:24 UTC 2015
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Kaj Ailomaa <zequence at mousike.me> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015, at 12:08 AM, Len Ovens wrote:
> > On Wed, 19 Aug 2015, Jimmy Sjölund wrote:
> > > > > As I mentioned before I'd like to look into incorporating
> > > Creator in
> > > > Ubuntu Studio, http://www.plume-creator.eu/. It is an
> > > > dedicated
> > > > to writing; blog posts, novels, essays or reports.
> > >
> > > Exactly, we had some talk about whether it would fit into Publishing
> but it might
> > > not be the best choice.
> > >
> > > Publishing in Freedesktop category have this spec:
> > >
> > > Publishing
> > > Desktop Publishing applications and Color Management tools
> > > Graphics or Office
> > >
> > > and Office:
> > >
> > > Office
> > > An office type application
> > ...
> > >
> > > When I compare with Scrivener which is a similar application it only
> has "Office"
> > > listed and it ends up in our Office menu when installed.
> > >
> > > I think Literature would be somewhat appropriate, but then it was
> pointed to main
> > > categories Education or Science, which to me seem a bit far fetched.
> > >
> > > I'd go for Office as no better alternative seem to exist. That would
> put it
> > > outside the Ubuntu Studio menu, I'm not sure if that's a problem?
> > It doesn't have to be a problem. If it already fits in office we can just
> > include it. We can still have it in the publishing meta regardless. This
> > is what the publishing menu/meta was actually originally imagined to
> > hold.
> I don't agree that this is what was imagined. And, I don't agree it goes
> into the publishing meta.
> Besides, we are going to redo those metas for next release, so that they
> are in correlation with our way of categorizing.
> > The only thing that has changed is that publishing as a word has been
> > found to be less than specific. However the idea of including Literature
> > creating tools is not out of line and with a push to use existing
> > Categories, Office is fine. I am sure many people will look there second
> > if not first.
> > --
> Literature being a subcategory to education and science makes it not
> work. But, what is actually the intention with that category? It looks a
> little confused.
> Perhaps this is a case where you could actually add a new freedesktop
> category, or change the literature category to be sub to office instead?
> In Ubuntu Studio we can have additional categories/workflows outside
> those used in Debian sections, or freedesktop categories, but for the
> sake of not getting people confused about English terms (which the
> categories somehow represent), we need to be strict about how we use
> Let's say we added a new meta called ubuntustudio-writing. That would
> represent a workflow, rather than a tool set.
> The freedesktop categories, and debian sections both focus on tool type,
> rather than workflows. Currently, our metas do a bit of both.
> ubuntustudio-writing (or whatever name we choose), would then include
> all packages needed for that workflow, not that I think there are that
> many. I think it's still an interesting area of digital arts creation.
> Ubuntustudio-writing is an interesting idea. That could include writer
tools (like Plume Creator, Scrivener and such), applications to create
e-books (not sure what those are as the applications I use all can produce
e-books directly) and other that I don't know about to support the
workflow. Then again writers often use stripped down text editors or Office
applications. It is starting to grow that bloggers use special applications
for their writing, so I believe it is a growing interest in tools that help
the workflow and process.
I think that workflow is the way to go rather than strict on application
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