[ubuntu-studio-devel] Feature Spec Discussion: Introduce New Netinstall ISO

Kaj Ailomaa zequence at mousike.me
Tue Jun 10 15:06:42 UTC 2014

On Tue, Jun 10, 2014, at 03:59 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 15:05 +0200, Kaj Ailomaa wrote:
> > ubuntustudio-audio-core (includes jackd2, and a bunch of other core
> >  components)
> For many needs there likely is no noticeable real difference between
> jackd and jackd2. I preferred jackd2 in the past, because it came with
> an improvement regarding to MIDI jitter. However, I didn't make music
> for a long time and during that time jackd and jackd2 seemingly have
> improved a lot. IOW I don't know what current version from jackd/jackd2
> is better for what needs, IMO there should be offered a choice, with an
> explanation, that using jackd or jackd2 could make a difference. I hope
> you make jackd2 with pulseaudio and or dbus a recommended and not a hard
> dependency, assumed jack and jack dbus are separated packages. Regarding
> to the policy that Ubuntu Studio by default seems to come with a
> combination of jack + pulseaudio I won't add a comment, without
> switching to sarcasm-mode. <sarcasm> Why only using 2 sound servers? Why
> not making 4 or 6 sound servers the default? </sarcasm]. IMO it doesn't
> make sense, there should be a clear definition what Ubuntu Studio wants
> to support. Assumed Ubuntu Studio wants to be an audio distro, then
> pulseaudio is an absolutely no-go. If you want to ship Ubuntu Studio
> with the pulseaudio-jack combination add a note that Ubuntu Studio is
> not an audio distro. This might sound harsh, but it's my deepest
> believe, so I need to point this out.

You know very well that Ubuntu Studio is not an audio distro, but a
audio/video/graphics/photography/publishing distro

The core meta will have next to no depends, only recommends, so that
changing anything in it won't uninstall the meta.

We have some ideas on how to make pulseaudio a choice for those who
prefer not to use it. And if you're prepared to help with that, be my

I have yet to see a single argument for why you do not like pulseaudio,
other than that you don't like it.

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