[ubuntu-studio-devel] LTS proposal 14.04

Len Ovens len at ovenwerks.net
Wed Feb 26 01:55:13 UTC 2014

On Wed, 26 Feb 2014, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 00:30 +0100, Jimmy Sjölund wrote:
>> I think it's good to keep the same support period, meaning 5 years.
> In general it is a good idea, but keep in mind that Debian and Ubuntu
> will switch to systemd soon. Maintaining releases with different systems
> might be much work for you. Systemd differs a lot to Ubuntu's upstart
> and Debian's SysVinit. IIRC 14.04 still does use upstart, but AFAIK the
> next release will use systemd. Am I mistaken?

The 14.04 part of the archives will continue to use upstart for as long as 
support lasts.  Unless you have heard differently, ubuntu has stated they 
will stick with upstart and will continue to develop it. However, I have 
not been watching that close, things may have changed.... search "ubuntu 
systemd announce" http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316 I guess 
that is pretty plain.

Cool. Anyway, as I said the LTS will remain upstart for its whole life. We 
don't really mess with init/upstart/systemd in any case, so it should not 
affect what we do.

My feelings are that I am glad this has happened. There are some things I 
would like to work on that do deal in that area and it would be nice if 
the whole linux world uses the same one so I only need to write one 

Some of the things I would like to know is if we will be using systemd to 
control the session as we have used upstart to do. Will run levels remain 
available.... and will services look at those run levels. How easy will it 
be to override the stock configuration... without conficting with the 
original system packages?

I would like to be able to shut off services like cron while doing audio 
work. Cron runs really "nice" but some of the things it starts can ask for 
lots of disk, cpu and net activity.

The idea that "modern computers" can handle all these things because of 
their speed seems to be incorrect. In fact modern computers seem to be 
higher latency machines rather than lower... go figure.

Len Ovens

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