Video players

Hartmut Noack zettberlin at
Tue Jun 4 16:22:30 UTC 2013

Am 04.06.2013 05:25, schrieb lukefromdc at
> A video player is a prerequisite to video editing,

A player is a prequisite for KDEnlive also, that is: a dependency,
normally KDEnlive also recommends VLC, others want Mplayer to be
installed. So a capable Player should be installed with KDEnlive anyway....

> as you must be able to play
> your own rendered files and the clips you make them from. If posting them to
> a video site like Liveleak, Flash in the browser is also needed, to check that 
> the upload works.
> The videos I make are done like this:
> 1: copy the folder containing AVCHD videos from the camera card
> onto the desktop and name it
> 2: Open Kdenlive, save a blank project in the new folder
> 3: Use Gnome-mplayer to play clips, looking for the good ones.
> Totem can lock up Nemo/Nautilus on a drag and drop,
> so I usually use Mplayer for this job. Xine is hard to 
> drop clip after clip into, but ALL the players are somewhat
> buggy for this.
> 4: Drop the good clips into Kdenlive, set up the timeline
> 5: Add backing music to the timeline. Use Audacious to sample
> backing music if not already decided-or mplayer to play a music
> video which can also provide backing music
> 6: Render .wav audio, 720P rescale, full 1080P in that order, using
> H264 codec at 2000 for 720P, 6000 for 1080p
> 7: Use Avidemux to replace the bad audio track (dropouts) Kdenlive
> gives rescaled files rendered from AVCHD right now with the .wav
> track, saving as copied video, AAC audio in MP4 container, do this
> only on the 720P as the fulleres file has good audio
> 8: Use qt-faststart from the command line ro remake the final files
> into "web optimized" MP4's with the headers up front.
> 9: Play the files, check for both human and machine errors!
> 10:: Post the 720P to Liveleak, then archive both rendered files on
> both primary and backup disks
> On 06/03/2013 at 8:18 PM, "Len Ovens" <len at> wrote:
>> On Sun, June 2, 2013 11:58 am, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>> Am 02.06.2013 17:23, schrieb Len Ovens:
>>>> In the mean time, Parole (like thunar) has been fixed and works 
>> on
>>>> anything I have tried it on.
>>>> We should perhaps switch back to Parole,
>>> Most people, that want a videoplayer that works for more or less
>>> everything will end up with either Mplayer or VLC both work with 
>> Jack
>>> also both are needed for encoding/videoediting anyway.
>>> I understand, that they are a bit tooo skilled to be shipped 
>> with Ubuntu
>>> by default but anyway: most users will end up with one of the two
>>> because they are simply the best solutions....
>>> So if you want the best for the user just install a script that
>>> recommends to install one of them.
>> Thank you for your comment. At the moment there doesn't seem to be 
>> anyone
>> who does more video than anything else. The purpose of a video 
>> player at
>> this point was for the normal desktop use as in completeness. I 
>> had not
>> thought of it as an essential tool for video creation.  That would 
>> be my
>> blind side. I understand video from an analogue and live 
>> production POV,
>> but not Desktop video creation. So I have added parole to fill the 
>> desktop
>> spot. Xine (which works for me when other things don't) seems to 
>> come by
>> default. But if there is something that is needed to fill a spot 
>> in the
>> video creation workflow. I would like to hear more about it. I had 
>> always
>> thought that the video editors like kdenlive provide their own way 
>> of
>> showing a video and that because of that a video player would not 
>> be
>> needed.
>> A good description of a video workflow for those of us who don't 
>> know
>> anything about it would be very useful. In fact a documentation of 
>> the
>> video work flow for those starting out in video creation would be
>> fantastic.
>> -- 
>> Len Ovens
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