Quantal RC is missing menu 'System -> Administration ->Additional Drivers'

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 20:04 +0200, ttoine wrote:
> 2012/10/15 Mike Holstein <mikeh789 at gmail.com>:
> > On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 12:57 -0400, Mike Holstein wrote:
> >> > that documentation is technically for a different operating system. we
> >> > wont be able to use the main ubuntu docs like we have in the past. the
> >> > loose plan is to help xubuntu with documentation, and link to (or
> >> > steal/borrow) relevant documentation when possible. you can create a
> >> > launchpad account and edit wikis as needed, though i wouldnt edit the
> >> > main ubuntu wiki's to fit our needs. we have our own, and it gets
> >> > trickier to maintain the stuff that is not really ubuntustudio
> >> > specific, or for stuff that some of our main team members dont have
> >> > the hardware to test/report. any help anyone can give in helping with
> >> > even just documentation is appreciated. thanks
> >>
> >> Ok, FWIW at the moment "Additional Drivers" doesn't work for Quantal,
> >> I've forgotten to mention that I run the update option of jockey-text,
> >> before I run # jockey-text -l.
> >
> >
> > you dont need the jockey, you can just install the driver manually.
> > sometimes i try different kernels... the realtime ones used to need to be
> > patched for some proprietary driver support... if it were me, as some point
> > i might just install vanilla ubuntu, and use the generic kernel it comes
> > with and at least try setting it up there as a troubleshooting step...
> 
> Most of the time, the -lowlatency kernell will work with nvidia and
> amd/ati restricted drivers, but you need to install the associated
> kernell headers. In some cases, once you updated a driver (security
> update, new version, ...) you may have to re-install the -lowlatency
> kernell.
> 
> Most of the time, the -rt kernell will not support restricted drivers.
> So if you really need it (I mean that the -lowlatency is not enough
> for you use case) it is better to run a full Intel or a full amd/ati
> (chipset + cpu + gpu) so you can use the free drivers.

I installed the driver manually, regarding to my graphics issue I wrote
to the users list, I wrote to this list regarding to Quantal RC.

However.

There are two ways to handle the license issue with kernel-rt. We can
patch the kernel or a NVIDIA header, both don't work for my NVIDIA card.
Usually I was automatically switching between nv and nvidia regarding to
the kernel at startup and FWIW nowadays even nouveau does work for most
needs, even for 3D usage.
I guess my NVIDIA card is better supported, I wont explain why now and I
anyway guess it's better for me to switch back to the ATI card, I also
won't explain why now, since it's to time consuming.

There's a common Intel will solve the issues approach, but I disagree. I
often read about issues with Intel too and <sarcasm> this statement
sounds a little bit like, "if your Behringer console doesn't fit to your
needs, get a Neve or SLL" </sarcasm>.

I at least need a full preempt kernel with threadirqs set up, perhaps I
need a kernel-rt, I had too much issues to really use my current
hardware for more than a year now.

A friend some time ago ask me, if he should buy a special, very
expensive computer, optimized to make music. I recommended to spend that
money to get 10 or 20 different mobos instead and to check which mobo is
okay with the used hardware and software.
Usually people don't have that much money.

For averaged Linux users I recommend to use NVIDIA. For optimized audio
systems I won't recommend anything, I only can share experiences.

"Most of the times" it's not the kernel that does cause issues, most of
the times it's X that does.

Regarding to hardware I'm very surprised what will happen as soon as PCI
is dropped and mobos only will ship with PCIe and when more and more
mobos ship with that UEFI stuff instead of old BIOS.

My RME PCIe card isn't as good supported as it's PCI predecessor is
supported for Linux. Perhaps I should have payed > 100 EUR "less" and
nevertheless would have get something easier to use. OTOH, in the near
future I might be happy that I payed more money to get a PCIe card.

Regards,
Ralf