Mike Holstein mikeh789 at
Mon Feb 20 14:18:34 UTC 2012

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 6:19 AM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf at>wrote:

> On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 12:01 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > I suspect a guitar tuner, a guitar tab thingy and jkmeter will be sorted
> > correctly
> Even those might be assigned to Multimedia instead of Audio Production,
> at least when compiled from svn etc..
thanks for putting this together len!

i think this kind of identifying could present issues. JAMin is a great
example. sure, its an effect, but thats not what the sub-menu "effects" is
about. do we need a "mastering" sub-menu? i think there will be plenty like
this. i think it is a great solution to duplicate the items into multiple
appropriate places. i dont think its helpful to just generate new menu
items to facilitate these "odd" ones however. i can think of a few examples
from distro-hopping, and seeing some other menu layouts as well. in default
ubuntu, openoffice was spread out all over. i always found it a challenge
to locate the certain "tasks" in openoffice, though im sure it works
ideally for others. also, i think it was brasero that was in the "audio"
area, even though brasero does much more than burn audio CD's and i rarely
use it for that. we have it in the "multimedia" main menu, though i could
argue that i use it more as an "office" tool. when i want to download an
iso for a linux distribution, and make a disc, or burn a backup data DVD, i
go in the menu to an inappropriate item for my task. i dont really have a
solution for this either, i mean, main ubuntu shouldnt have a "data media
creation" menu item where brasero is duplicated, and it doesnt fit better
in "office".

i think the current setup where everything is in one *long*, *giant* menu
is terrible as well.

len has done a great job making this page, and i am fine with the direction
he is heading. maybe we just move forward like we are, leaving the default
main-ubuntu ones where they are, and if something comes up that is (like
brasero) challenging to classify, we can discuss... otherwise, i say len
has it under control!

as for the other issues "what will break" and "what happens when you
reinstall"... we should try and test for these issues of course, but i
think we go forward focused on our default application menu placement, and
do what we can with the others as time permits, or as specific cases are
presented. if Ralph has a particular non-default application that is a
concern, and we can take that into consideration and place it in a more
appropriate place, that would be great. thanks again len...

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