bug and solution

Len Ovens len at ovenwerks.net
Thu Nov 24 23:19:26 UTC 2011

On Thu, November 24, 2011 8:48 am, Scott Lavender wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Luke Yelavich <themuso at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 06:08:12PM EST, Len Ovens wrote:
>> > All the sudo type applications ask for the root password instead of
>> the
>> > user password. SUDO works as expected in a terminal.
>> >
>> > I am not sure but it looks like the last line of the file:
>> >
>> > /preseed/ubuntustudio.seed
>> >
>> > sets up the groups the user will be a part of... it is missing admin.
>> Sudo
>> > uses group adm? I'm guessing...
>> >
>> > Anyway, when I add the user to the admin group, synaptic works as
>> expected.
>> In precise, we are actually moving away from the admin group, so various
>> bits and pieces still need to be changed so they don't use the admin
>> group,
>> the preseed file included.

OK... what are we moving to? Is PK (policy kit) still going to be used at
all? Is ubuntu still using the sudo method of doing things that require
root priv? I would suggest that the admin group needs to remain in place
until whatever we are moving to shows up.... instead of having a broken
system. As it stands, either the user is in the admin group or the user
does sudo bash and then sets a root password. putting the user in the
admin group for now seems the smoothest way to go Less confusing too).

> depending on luke's answer, probably the best place to report bugs for
> ubuntu studio is to file a bug report in launchpad.  this way it not only
> gets the broad scope of attention that it deserves, but also keeps
> visibility on it as well.

I would guess that because we are not to alpha 1 yet... the problem
doesn't exist. it is being worked on. From what I could see, there is a
whole lot more work to change PK to a different group than just use admin
as is. For ubuntu server, changes in this area make sense as different
people may be in charge of different root access required software.

I have noticed a lot of changes in this area... the first one I used...
root access software could only be run from an account with sudo rights...
 Then you could choose the user if you were logged in to a non-admin
user... now it seems if you are logged in the right account, you don't
even need any password for some things that used to require it and you do
for others.

PK is a gnome utility and so the move to unity may have something to do
with it and PK may be getting replaced.

Perhaps we are not supposed to test the iso till alpha 1?

Len Ovens

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