http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008/01/29/grunge-style-in-modern-web-design/ I know its been dropped, but I really liked it and I know others really liked it. Heres a rough guide to the grunge style for webpages. Alot of the elements can be applied to a desktop UI. Anyway, bookmark it, and look at it once all the hardy work is all done and dusted. Toma-