[Ubuntu-SG] New to singapore

Sat Nov 22 01:18:20 UTC 2014

Not to mention the fear of arrows, and awesome taichi skills ;p

On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 9:05 AM, billy am <wickedpuppy at gmail.com> wrote:

> Here is what IT manager thinks
>
> (Hmms , the company pays for software so why take the risk and install
> Linux and have to explain to the big bosses when I can buy Microsoft , IBM
> , Dell and then when things go wrong , blame them?
>
> I am not here to make the company/organization more effective or
> efficient. I don't get any benefits out of it. I am just being paid monthly
> whatever happens. So I will spend all my energy on how I can put the blame
> on someone for everything I do!!!
>
> Yes yes. Thats right.
> Firewall breached and website hacked? Firewall company and those pesky
> hackers are the problem.
> Server down? The vendor doesn't know what to do.
> My people are taking too long because they are not experienced or
> short-handed? They are idiots! Getting them better pay or find people with
> more experience and more pay means I will have to ask the big boss to
> increase my budget! That might affect my bonus!!! Oh no!!! Time to be a
> slave driver... oh yah! More late night work!!!)
>
> When you have people tied their performance to budget and not profit ,
> thats what you get. How many companies , mostly medium to large ,
> companies' managers will risk their neck , and 5 figure salary , to suggest
> their directors to do something that never done before? Why do that? When
> you can be a boot-licker and get paid to do that?
>
> Remember , dept budget is more important than company profit. Every dept
> manager will watch their own backside.
>
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> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Ho Yi Hao Pipat <yihao.ho at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> I like the idea of helping NGOs to manage their webserver. That will be a
>> fantastic idea considering that we don't need someone to be on site all the
>> time.
>>
>> But the issue is though, most of the time, the NGOs would already have a
>> preferred web host provider that is very commonly bundled with a mail
>> system.. To get them to change might take some convincing.
>>
>> I think the issue in Singapore is that the education system is so tied
>> into the Windows system that it is often hard for people to change to
>> something other than that. In my school days, writing a report was a horror
>> as I preferred to use Open Office (No libre around yet) and it would often
>> screw up when saved in .doc which means I would often have to "ahem" Office
>> just to get my report done..
>>
>> Bringing that back to the IT scene in Singapore, with the Windows
>> mentality, it is hard to find people who will be willing to take the
>> plunge. Even if the open source solution will be more cost-effective in the
>> long run. So, it will take some effort to get NGO to allow us to handle
>> stuff for them.
>>
>> With that in mind, that shouldn't mean that we should give up but we
>> should keep trying and see how we can help the NGOs since I think we all
>> agree that open source is the most cost- effective way for them. Perhaps we
>> could start from helping them migrate to Libre (or Open Office if that's
>> your preference) from M$ office?
>>
>> Within ourselves, start a sinking fund where we can offer to manage NGOs
>> website and email? Either the renting of servers or someone with the
>> facility to host it? With of course a credit to us so that other NGOs might
>> take notice?
>>
>> I'm just throwing some ideas around to see if we can get something kick
>> started since a lot of stuff that we used to plan would either not move
>> pass the talk about it phase or eventually quieten down with nothing done.
>> Here's hoping somethings will change.
>>
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>>
>> With regards,
>> Yi Hao
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 9:37 PM, billy am <wickedpuppy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> isn't it the truth? I just did a major project with a 3rd party software
>>> company at work. Company wide project with multiple Oracle servers ,
>>> weblogc  , jboss , etc etc. From our side , there are only 2 people. Me and
>>> the project manager who is more of a budget , schedule manager rather than
>>> technical.
>>>
>>> Clearly , the value of a project manager , in SG at least , is at how
>>> he/she handles the upper management on the budget / schedule and how to
>>> communicate the requirement. Nothing about actual software / hardware /
>>> setup / config / maintenance is required.
>>>
>>> Frankly , if anyone want to be actually managing IT infra and makes
>>> decisions on IT , take MBA/CFA/ACCA/CPA. It would be faster.
>>>
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>>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Tom Goh <tomgohj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree with that statement on management.  The universities teach kids
>>>> that what they should aspire to is be a project manager.  I have asked
>>>> several university students what they want to do after graduation and they
>>>> all said project manager.  When asked why, they say that is what their
>>>> professors tell them.
>>>>
>>>> That is why tech in Singapore is so bad.  Because we have project
>>>> managers who don't know how to develop or run systems in the real world and
>>>> get the wool pulled over their eyes.  They just rely on big vendors to
>>>> propose solutions.
>>>>
>>>> Its getting better now that there is a growing start up culture.
>>>> On Nov 21, 2014 7:45 PM, "Chow Loong Jin" <hyperair at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 01:26:29PM +0800, billy am wrote:
>>>>> > Redhat has. Canonical I am not sure ... Mark did come down to
>>>>> Singapore
>>>>> > before. Suse yes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Red Hat's mostly a sales office, as are most other multi-national
>>>>> companies
>>>>> (e.g. Google, Facebook) which have bases in Singapore. I think the
>>>>> only major
>>>>> large corporation with a real coding base here is PayPal.
>>>>>
>>>>> > NUS mirrors everything btw. Including CRAN , CPAN , etc ... But
>>>>> again , the
>>>>> > Universities train office workers/drones , not
>>>>> technologists/hackers. Pls
>>>>> > keep it in mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not quite, they train people who think that coding is a stepping stone
>>>>> toward
>>>>> management. And then they become managers and hang up whatever little
>>>>> xcoding
>>>>> skills they had in the first place.
>>>>>
>>>>> > Linux is cheaper ONLY if in large numbers. For SMEs , Linux is a
>>>>> nightmare.
>>>>> > Windows admins with 3 - 4 years experience can be found for below 2k
>>>>> / mth
>>>>> > , if you know where and how to find.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eh speak for yourself. I used to work in an SME with only 3 people
>>>>> (aside from
>>>>> me). They're doing pretty well, and they're mostly a Linux shop.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Loong Jin
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