[Ubuntu-SG] New to singapore

Thu Nov 20 05:17:39 UTC 2014

Because most entry level jobs postings require that you have at least 1 - 2
years of Linux working experience , not volunteer experience mind you.

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On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Ravi Mohan <faileas.greywolf at gmail.com>
wrote:

> And most people want coders, rather than sysadmins, and the same sort of
> sysadmin 'culture' I've seen with US based folks dosen't exist here to the
> same extent.
>
> Most linux folks here are self taught too - most schools here and in the
> region are heavily into windows, and quite a lot of the older, more
> experienced folks have no idea about linux - I was helping lecturers with
> *years* of IT experience through putty of all things.
>
>  . And eh, job hunting for linux admin type jobs, especially at the entry
> level is a bit of a pain. I've been applying to quite a few and no luck
> yet.
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:31 PM, billy am <wickedpuppy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A few reasons why it is so hard to find Linux admins here , from my point
>> of view and my experience applying jobs
>>
>> 1) SG is small , tiny actually , total population is 5.3 millions.
>> Compare that to Facebook/Twitter/Google customer base , in billions. Even
>> if the entire Singapore population comes to your website , the daily hit
>> rate will be no more than 5.3 millions.Compare that to Google/Facebook , in
>> billions in hours , thats small.
>>
>> So then unless you are serving the regional market , why pay for Linux
>> Admin , which is hard to find , than a Windows admin , which any Tom , Dick
>> and Harry might be able to do with a simple training and certs? It would be
>> like cracking a nut with an Elephant.
>>
>> 2) Small country = small population also means that most companies are
>> not interested/experienced in aiming/planning to scale up their operations.
>> Few SG companies go out of SG to regional/global. So most don't see how IT
>> costs can go up exponentially if you are a slave to M$.
>>
>> Again , contrast it with big countries , if you become popular in New
>> York , you plan to conquer the entire US. There are plenty of Americans who
>> might be interested in your product.
>>
>> 3)  the dept head must be accountable for his payroll and SLA , so most
>> will look for Windows admins. With VMWare , backup and restore is also
>> easier. I got Windows boxes at work that crash weekly , but with the magic
>> of VMWare snapshots , we can do DR and restore so that solves the problem
>> as well.
>>
>> 4) A lot of big companies , Banks mainly , are also moving their IT infra
>> to India/China with the rise of cloud usage. It no longer matters now if
>> the DC is in Singapore or India. And of course , by the magic of very
>> strong S$ , its definitely cheaper to hire outside than inside.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Billy
>>
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>> http://billyam.com  || http://use-r.com  || http://shinyserver.com (BETA)
>>
>> SAS Certified Base Programmer for SAS 9
>> Oracle SQL Expert(11g)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Muhammad Heidir <md.heidir at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ben,
>>>
>>> I deal with Linux blackboxes for the past 5 years ranging from custom
>>> built BlueCoat Proxies, Barracuda appliances to Imperva SecureSphere boxes.
>>> They have been very useful stuff. Some customisable some are not.
>>>
>>> The best thing I ever did was to have one in AWS where it is currently
>>> hosting my personal/family site. Its a reliable OS if you know your way in
>>> it. But sometimes, its flaky when too many customisations are being done.
>>>
>>> Let me know what you are looking for and I’ll try my best to assist you.
>>>
>>> Regards,     Muhammad Heidir  | Father, Husband, IT Freak
>>> SystemX | Punggol Arcadia
>>> Mobile: +65 9026 6674
>>>       Website   Email <md.heidir at gmail.com>    Map
>>> <https://maps.google.com.sg/?q=627A+Aljunied+Road,+BizTech+Centre,+#05-07,%20Singapore%20389842>
>>> vCard
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>>> On 20 Nov 2014, at 12:07, Ben De Luca <bdeluca at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 2 linux folk double the number of people I know who do tech in admin for
>>> linux here :D
>>>
>>> Our company is almost entirely linux, about around 700 machines. We
>>> struggle to find any one who knows any thing about it.
>>>
>>> What do other people do?
>>>
>>> Ive got about 17 years of experience picked up slackware in the late
>>> 90's so I had something similar to the solaris at uni.  Though we do mostly
>>> fedora/ubuntu at work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:01 PM, billy am <wickedpuppy at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Ben ,
>>>>
>>>> Used to be several ,
>>>>
>>>> - LUGS (Linux Users Group of Singapore)
>>>> - SUSE User Group
>>>> - Fedora User Group
>>>> - The rest I am not sure ... perhaps Mint may have?
>>>>
>>>> We did use to have a annual FOSS day about 5 years ago but not anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Billy
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> http://billyam.com  || http://use-r.com  || http://shinyserver.com
>>>> (BETA)
>>>>
>>>> SAS Certified Base Programmer for SAS 9
>>>> Oracle SQL Expert(11g)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Ben De Luca <bdeluca at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are there other linux user groups here? does any one do meet ups?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:56 AM, billy am <wickedpuppy at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Ben ,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Welcome to Singapore!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are definitely not alone but there isn't that many Linux
>>>>>> sysadmins either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pls let us know if you need any help adjusting to life in Singapore
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Billy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> http://billyam.com  || http://use-r.com  || http://shinyserver.com
>>>>>> (BETA)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SAS Certified Base Programmer for SAS 9
>>>>>> Oracle SQL Expert(11g)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Ben De Luca <bdeluca at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>    I am a linux sysadmin new to Singapore, just wanted to reach out
>>>>>>> and find out if I was alone :D
>>>>>>>
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