[Ubuntu-SG] Should we "Say No to Piracy"?
Muhammad Heidir
dave33bravo at yahoo.com.sg
Mon Jun 22 08:37:52 UTC 2009
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 16:11 +0800, suhaw koh wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
>
> A quick response to your point about multi-region DVD players:
>
>
> The Digital Life article by Alfred Siew you quoted was published in
> 2004, prior to the amendment of the laws. Check out this FAQ from
> IPOS website:
> http://www.ipos.gov.sg/topNav/leg/pub/pas/FAQ+for+USSFTA
> +Consultation.htm
>
>
>
> What if a person purchased and used a multi-coded player for films
> e.g. DVD player? Would that also be considered an act of
> circumvention?
> No. There is also an express provision in Section 261C(10) allowing
> for import or sale of devices whose sole purpose is to control market
> segmentation for access to films e.g. multi-coded DVD player.
>
>
>
>
> As for the more recent Nov 2008 DL article about Sim Lim raids that
> Chew quoted, they are specifically about modifying devices to
> circumvent access control measures, ie modifying the Wii machines to
> play pirated software.
>
>
> Cheers.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> suhaw
>
>
>
>
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> 2009/6/22 chewearn <chew4097 at gmail.com>
> Caveat: IANAL.
>
> Check out this article:
> http://www.asiaone.com/Digital/News/Story/A1Story20081117-101233.html
>
> Especially the last paragraph, quote:
> "It is illegal under the Copyright Act to
> 'circumvent...technological access control measures'. Those
> convicted face up to $20,000 in fines or up to two years'
> jail, or both."
>
> I leave it to you to make the appropriate conclusion.
>
>
> Regards
> Chew
>
>
> 2009/6/22 Tom Goh <tomgohj at gmail.com>
>
> Just did a search and I may be wrong about fair use in
> singapore.
>
> http://computertimes.asiaone.com.sg/columns/story/0,5104,2804,00.html
>
> The Free Trade Agreement with the United States
> obliges Singapore to
> tighten up copyright laws by this year. Singapore's
> stand, fortunately,
> is an enlightened one.
>
> An important clause in the proposed changes states
> that it is not
> illegal to disable technology used for 'market
> segmentation'. It ensures
> that multi-region DVD players are okay to use here.
>
> It does not specifically state anything about
> Singapore and decss.
>
>
>
>
> suhaw koh wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Seeking your thoughts/inputs/advice on the following
> idea.
> >
> > Further to the Schools project idea.
> >
> > Since a key tenet of this project is to reinforce
> the students'
> > awareness and respect for IP rights, I was thinking
> of enlisting the
> > assistance of IPOS.
> >
> > At there website, I came across the HIP (Honour
> Intellectual Property)
> > Alliance at this url:
> > http://www.ipos.gov.sg/topNav/prg/gen/HIP+(Honour
> +Intellectual+Property)+Alliance.htm
> >
> > It describes the Alliance thus:
> >
> > "HIP Alliance Members
> >
> > The HIP Alliance members include organisations
> involved in creative arts
> > and the creative industries, international
> organisations, industry
> > bodies and private sector players that believe in
> Singapore's message to
> > Say No to Piracy."
> >
> > I was just wondering if TUSG should sign up to be a
> member of the
> > alliance ? I know it is not quite what was
> envisaged, but I believe
> > TUSG should be a strong supporter of "Singapore's
> message to Say No to
> > Piracy".
> >
> > What do you think ?
> >
> >
> > suhaw
> > --
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> > Koh Su Haw 许树浩
> > http://suhaw.teresaville.org/
> >
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> Koh Su Haw 许树浩
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Hi,
Correct me if I'm wrong. But this is what they meant:
1) As long as the media is purchased legally, then having a multi-coded
DVD player is fine. May I conclude that, if you bought the DVD legally,
and decide to rip it and save it as a backup, then it is ok. But if you
share, sell or distribute then it is not ok.
2) Then if you build, sell or distribute systems that enable illegally
obtained/pirated media to run, then it is considered an act of
circumvention.
Does these affect us joining the alliance then?
Canonical/Ubuntu does not do those stuff. In anyway, there are totally
Open Source solutions which are legal. I don't see any issue in having
us a part of this alliance but more to adding credibility.
Your views?
--
Best Regards,
Muhammad Heidir
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