[Oneiric-Topic] Server Boot
pandu at poluan.info
Wed Apr 6 09:30:39 UTC 2011
A hearty, resounding, reverberating "YES, PLEASE!! I want to see my
server's booting process!!!"
On 2011-04-06, Sander Smeenk <ssmeenk at freshdot.net> wrote:
> Quoting Louis RUPPERT (lruppert at louruppert.com):
>> They are for me. In the rare instance of a hardware or boot failure, I
>> like to be able to watch the process happen, and to be able to have a
>> working console to login to. Anything that requires bootsplash and
>> upstart potentially interferes with that. I don't care if my server
>> looks pretty when it's booting. I do care that I can see at what point
>> in the boot process a catastrophic failure has occurred.
> I do so much agree with this. I recently subscribed here to discuss
> exactly these concerns with Ubuntu's server edition.
> These things really, really bug me in my work with Ubuntu Server:
> * GRUB's default HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true
> * GRUB's default "graphical console"
> * Plymouth splashscreens (even textbased ones!)
> * Upstart hiding console-output
> I am fully aware of the fact that this is 'open source' and i can 'use
> the source, Luke!'. That's exactly what i do after installing a server:
> disable most of the above listed "features".
> What bugs me is the sheer illogical choices that have been made for
> Ubuntu Server. These things are perfect for Ubuntu Desktop installs as
> my mom doesn't need to see the kernel boot, but for a server, these
> messages are of essential value to debugging (boot)problems. A situation
> i face on a weekly basis hosting/maintaining >300 Ubuntu servers.
> As Louis so neatly wrote down:
> | "I like to be able to watch the process happen. [ .. ] I don't care if
> | my server looks pretty when it's booting. I do care that I can see at
> | what point in the boot process a catastrophic failure has occurred."
> With regards,
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