[Oneiric-Topic] Server Boot

[Alejandro Leyva]

+1

2011/4/6, Pandu Poluan <pandu at poluan.info>:
> A hearty, resounding, reverberating "YES, PLEASE!! I want to see my
> server's booting process!!!"
>
> Rgds,
>
>
> On 2011-04-06, Sander Smeenk <ssmeenk at freshdot.net> wrote:
>> Quoting Louis RUPPERT (lruppert at louruppert.com):
>>
>>> They are for me.  In the rare instance of a hardware or boot failure, I
>>> like to be able to watch the process happen, and to be able to have a
>>> working console to login to.  Anything that requires bootsplash and
>>> upstart potentially interferes with that.  I don't care if my server
>>> looks pretty when it's booting.  I do care that I can see at what point
>>> in the boot process a catastrophic failure has occurred.
>>
>> I do so much agree with this. I recently subscribed here to discuss
>> exactly these concerns with Ubuntu's server edition.
>>
>> These things really, really bug me in my work with Ubuntu Server:
>>
>>  * GRUB's default HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true
>>  * GRUB's default "graphical console"
>>  * Plymouth splashscreens (even textbased ones!)
>>  * Upstart hiding console-output
>>
>> I am fully aware of the fact that this is 'open source' and i can 'use
>> the source, Luke!'. That's exactly what i do after installing a server:
>> disable most of the above listed "features".
>>
>> What bugs me is the sheer illogical choices that have been made for
>> Ubuntu Server. These things are perfect for Ubuntu Desktop installs as
>> my mom doesn't need to see the kernel boot, but for a server, these
>> messages are of essential value to debugging (boot)problems. A situation
>> i face on a weekly basis hosting/maintaining >300 Ubuntu servers.
>>
>> As Louis so neatly wrote down:
>>
>> | "I like to be able to watch the process happen. [ .. ] I don't care if
>> | my server looks pretty when it's booting.  I do care that I can see at
>> | what point in the boot process a catastrophic failure has occurred."
>>
>> +1
>>
>> With regards,
>> -Sander.
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