[Oneiric-Topic] Byobu

jurgen.depicker at let.be jurgen.depicker at let.be
Fri Apr 1 07:19:14 UTC 2011


+1 for byobu by default.

> From: "D'nalkrik Nit-sud" <kirkland at ubuntu.com>
> To: Ubuntu Server Team <ubuntu-server at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Date: 30/03/2011 19:55
> Subject: [Oneiric-Topic] Byobu
> Sent by: ubuntu-server-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
> 
> I'd like to raise the (biannual) proposition that we consider
> launching Byobu by default on Ubuntu Server installs for at least part
> of the Oneiric cycle.  As an LTS-1 release, this provides an ideal
> opportunity (Alpha1-3?) to innovate and differentiate, while still
> allowing for recalibration and reconsideration ahead of the subsequent
> stability-focused LTS cycle.
> 
> Byobu has come a long way in the last 2.5 years, having addressed many
> of the early concerns about functionality, stability, and usability.
> New features, such as horizontal and vertical splitting, and
> traditional ones such as convenient keybindings and dozens of
> real-time monitors provide a rich, unique command line experience for
> many Ubuntu users.  Byobu has won the praise of numerous users,
> bloggers, and magazines, with many people swearing by its utility.
> 
> That praise is not unanimous, of course (though what is unanimous in
> Ubuntu these days?).  So such a change would be easily overridden by
> the following preseed parameter (and could even be a single question
> in the installer):
>  byobu byobu/launch-by-default boolean false
> 
> At login, the user would be clearly informed that this is brand new
> behavior which can be trivially and permanently reverted with the
> command:
>  $ byobu-disable
> 
> Furthermore, derivative distributions should be able to cleanly and
> easily opt in or out of this change.
> 
> At the very least, I suggest that we consider enabling Byobu by
> default for our cloud images that necessarily run detached and
> "elsewhere" -- which is really where Byobu shines!  Byobu provides
> some distinct advantages over numerous indistinguishable cloud images
> on the market.  Shall we take a risk and innovate a bit here?  At
> least for a couple of non-LTS Alpha releases?  Or perhaps localized to
> our cloud images?
> 
> --
> D'nalkrik Nit-sud
> Registered Byobu user #00000001
> 
> Okay, okay ... it's really Dustin Kirkland, of course.
> 
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